Blickers
 
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Tue 5 Jul, 2016 08:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Hard to say. This is from 9 hours ago-what does it seem like?

Paul Ryan Denounces Donald Trump’s Use of ‘Anti-Semitic’ Hillary Clinton Image

Rosalie Chan @rosaliechan17

12:40 PM ET
Ryan says Trump needs to "clean this up"


Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan has denounced a recent Donald Trump tweet featuring Hillary Clinton and a six-pointed star, calling the image “anti-Semitic.”

The image, which Trump tweeted on July 2, shows Hillary Clinton, along with the words “most corrupt candidate ever” emblazoned on a Star of David and a pile of $100 bills in the background. He posted the image with the words, “Crooked Hillary – – Makes History!”

In an interview with Wisconsin radio host Charlie Sykes on Tuesday, Ryan was asked about Trump’s use of the image. He replied, “anti-Semitic images—they’ve got no place in a presidential campaign. Candidates should know that. The tweet has been deleted and I don’t know how long he put this up there. Obviously they’ve got to fix that.”

Ryan also said that Trump needs to “clean this up.”

“One of the few times I spoke out against him during the primaries, very forcefully, was in this area, where he failed to disavow white supremacists,” Ryan said.

Trump did not immediately respond to Ryan’s comments. He had deleted the original tweet and reposted a new image, replacing the Star of David with a circle. Trump also tweeted that the star in the image was actually a sheriff’s star or a plain star.

Ryan previously endorsed Trump.

http://time.com/4393437/paul-ryan-donald-trump-tweet-anti-semitic/
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 5 Jul, 2016 08:56 pm
@Blickers,
It doesn't say he disavows Trump. That's very telling, because Paul Ryan would jump at being Trump's VP. Everybody knows it.
His use of "textbook racist" is nothing but smoke and mirrors. He's hiding behind the mirror to keep that opening in case Trump offers it. Ryan seems like a smart guy, but is also looking out for himself and possible trip to the White House.
That mirror can shatter at any time.
snood
 
  4  
Tue 5 Jul, 2016 09:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
He would not "jump" at being Trump's VP. He knows, just like everyone else does, that Trump isn't going to win anything in November. Not only that, but anyone connected to Trump as a running mate better not have any plans for a political future. And Ryan is about 99.9% ambition.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 5 Jul, 2016 10:02 pm
@snood,
If that is so, why is he so cautious about disavowing Trump.
He's supposed to be the one with ethics.
snood
 
  4  
Tue 5 Jul, 2016 10:12 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

If that is so, why is he so cautious about disavowing Trump.
He's supposed to be the one with ethics.

His position as the Speaker constrains him to have to offer a modicum of support, or at least the appearance of support, for the presumptive Republican nominee. The only people anxious to attach themselves to Trump are those with no other future in office - those with nothing to lose- like Gingrich and Christie.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 5 Jul, 2016 10:48 pm
@snood,
Sounds right.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sun 10 Jul, 2016 07:46 am
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engineer
 
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Sun 10 Jul, 2016 08:03 am
@snood,
But likewise, those vocally renouncing him also have nothing to lose as well and that frees them to state their true opinion. The Presidents Bush, Romney, et al can speak from their senior statesman positions without fear. If Ryan truly did not care about being speaker or a future in politics, he could speak out, but to repudiate Trump means he would lose his Speaker position and maybe his House seat. That would be the end of his political ambitions. When he hesitated on supporting Trump, he got an earful very quickly and then came around. Trump has the Republican party now and the party has the politicians.
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Blickers
 
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Sun 10 Jul, 2016 08:57 am
I think these Republicans are giving themselves "wiggle room" before they come around. They make it clear they don't like Trump, they support Trump late, and if the large electoral defeat they are anticipating occurs, after it's all over they can say, "I tried to tell you this guy was a disaster" and use that to assume leadership in taking the party into a different direction. Although not that different a direction, remember where the GOP's money comes from.
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 10 Jul, 2016 11:04 am
Quote:
On March 2, a group of 121 Republican foreign policy experts signed an open letter explaining their opposition to Trump saying, "We have disagreed with one another on many issues, including the Iraq war and intervention in Syria. But we are united in our opposition to a Donald Trump presidency." Among their list of objections to Trump were, "His vision of American influence and power in the world is wildly inconsistent and unmoored in principle," and "He is fundamentally dishonest."

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Blickers
 
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Sun 10 Jul, 2016 12:13 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
IF is a pretty big word for having just two letters. I'm expecting 8 years of President Trump followed by 8 years of President Gingrich (hopefully he'll be Mr. Trump's VP). And then after 16 years of Presidents Trump and Gingrich, I'm expecting the Republicans to easily win the White House yet again in 2032.

Last two polls on Thursday: Pew Research had Mrs. Clinton up by 9 percentage points, Reuters/Ipsos had her up by 11 points. Still plenty of time, but as of now this is shaping up as a big loss for the GOP. That's why Republicans are already distancing themselves as much as possible from this year's candidate while still trying to avoid being labelled disloyal.

Do you think Trump is going to select Ivanka as his VP? They worked together well on The Apprentice.
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glitterbag
 
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Sun 10 Jul, 2016 06:43 pm
@oralloy,
Anyone who can admire Gingrich is a very forgiving stooge.
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Blickers
 
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Sun 10 Jul, 2016 07:00 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:

I've no idea, but I'm hoping for Mr. Gingrich. The closest that I ever came to joining the Republican Party was when he led the party.

Which of Gringrich's ideas did you find more alluring? His proposal to get rid of family care for orphans and replace it with orphanages, or his plan to make the Moon the 51st State? (Gingrich actually to do these two things).
oralloy
 
  -3  
Sun 10 Jul, 2016 09:20 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Which of Gringrich's ideas did you find more alluring? His proposal to get rid of family care for orphans and replace it with orphanages, or his plan to make the Moon the 51st State? (Gingrich actually to do these two things).

Those sound like Democratic misrepresentations of Newt's proposals.

I like the way he forced President Clinton to balance the budget, leading to the prosperity of the 1990s.

I might have preferred a bit higher taxes on the rich and a bit more military spending, but a balanced budget is a balanced budget.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Mon 11 Jul, 2016 06:00 am
@snood,
Quote:
Ryan is about 99.9% ambition.


You got that right, he's not about to lose as VP twice. He may be venial but he's not stupid enough to grasp at straws. At least not twice in a row.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Mon 11 Jul, 2016 06:03 am
@cicerone imposter,
If he's going to be in the party, he may be tepid in his support of tRump, but he can't be seen as going against the tide.

Anyone in the GOP who has national ambitions is in a tough spot until tRump gets dropped at the convention or in November.
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revelette2
 
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Mon 11 Jul, 2016 01:43 pm
Trump is making a real mess of his campaign

Quote:
You can love Donald Trump. You can hate him. But what you cannot dispute is that the way he has run his campaign since sealing the Republican nomination two months ago has been absolutely disastrous.

Campaigns are complicated things. No one gets every piece of them right. Some candidates are great at big rallies. Some are good only at small events. Some are terrific TV communicators but bad on the stump. Some delegate well, and others don’t. Some never waver from a message, while others can’t seem to find one with a 10-foot pole. It’s a high-wire balancing act every day with tens of millions of people watching.

But there are basic blocking and tackling elements of any campaign that are less complex — and absolutely necessary to do if you want to win. The most basic of all? If your opponent is having a bad day or a bad week, let them have it. Just get out of the way.


The rest at the source, it is pretty good, funny.

cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 11 Jul, 2016 02:14 pm
@revelette2,
Trump's wall and ban against Muslims will never get mass approval from Americans. Only racial bigots like Trump are in glee that they have a 'brother' who has the same ideas as they. That's about 30% of the American electorate.
 

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