cicerone imposter
 
  5  
Wed 9 Mar, 2016 04:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Trump uses thugs to control people who ask embarrassing questions. What ever happened to the freedom of the press?
Trump doesn't quality to represent anyone as a public official. All he cares about is "ME" and publicity for himself. His ego is dangerous,
BillRM
 
  0  
Wed 9 Mar, 2016 04:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Thugs you mean security people use to throwed out people who interrupted his rallies on property the use of that he is paying for?

Let me know if he or his people are throwing out people out of public places and or places he does not have a right to then we can talk about freedom of the press.

Example is the professor who try to have a student reporter thrown out of a public area of a university.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 9 Mar, 2016 05:36 pm
@BillRM,
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/so-just-happened-donald-trump-rally
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 9 Mar, 2016 05:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
From Mother Jones:
Quote:
He also boasted, "I can be more presidential than anybody. I can be more presidential, if I want to be." He added, "More presidential than anybody other than the great Abe Lincoln. He was very presidential, right?"

Presidential?

Trump has hardly been a champion of statesmanship or decorum. Through the decades, he has been brash and brazen. He has called Rosie O'Donnell a "dog" and compared having sex in the 1980s to serving in Vietnam. (Both were dangerous.) And recently he became the first presidential candidate to go on television and directly refer to the size of his penis.

Trump has a long history of crude remarks. But perhaps he was at his crudest when in 2009 he participated in a Comedy Central roast of comedian Joan Rivers. He appeared on the broadcast via a video clip. Seated at a desk in an office, Trump delivered the following, uh, tribute to Rivers.

Good evening, America, I am Donald Trump, and I'm not here to tell you roast jokes. Frankly, it's beneath me. In fact, even doing cableā€”I only do network. I don't do this kind of stuff. And I don't like it. I'm here to announce my greatest, my most ambitious construction project yet: the Joan Rivers Facial and Body Renovation. And that is a big job. My trained eye tells me since 1982 you've been condemned from the waist down. And like most dilapidated structures, you haven't been entered in decades. But I, Donald Trump, promise you no expense will be spared in your reconstruction. We'll tent you, fumigate you, and, if necessary, send in a hazmat team to remove all hazardous materials found in that toxic pool you call a vagina. Which has already been responsible for at least one fatality. Trump Rivers will be one of my biggest projects ever. But Donald Trump is up to the challenge to make you, what we in real estate business call [bleep] friendly.

The word bleeped out seemed to be "dick."

Truly classy. And very presidential. Just like Lincoln.


This guy gets himself into trouble every time he opens his mouth, and he is not capable of learning from his mistakes.
BillRM
 
  0  
Wed 9 Mar, 2016 05:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
God I do not like Trump but you are reaching almost to the moon in your complains about the man.

By the way the President on our twenty dollars bills had a habit of killing men who insulted his wife and move whole tribes thousands of miles at great cost in human life while telling the SC to go to hell.

None of our presidents was saints.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 9 Mar, 2016 06:31 pm
@BillRM,
".....was saints?" LOL
BillRM
 
  0  
Wed 9 Mar, 2016 06:34 pm
@cicerone imposter,
LOL back to you and perhaps we could take up a collection to buy you a few American history books as you and Trump seems to share about the same understanding of history.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Wed 9 Mar, 2016 06:45 pm
@BillRM,
You mean the professor who even though no one was gone after is now in the process of being fired. Glad to know you think should be fired, too.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Wed 9 Mar, 2016 06:49 pm
http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r589/duadmin/160309-trump-by-the-numbers_zpsbbeui6yz.jpg
BillRM
 
  0  
Wed 9 Mar, 2016 06:50 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
You mean a professor who try to set a mob on a student for daring to be reporting on a public meeting should not be fired in your opinion?

Take note of the word public as on public lands not private rallies on private sites.
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McGentrix
 
  0  
Wed 9 Mar, 2016 07:47 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Remind me again, what percentage of registered voters actually votes?
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Lilkanyon
 
  2  
Thu 10 Mar, 2016 03:11 pm
@BillRM,
That was a way different time Bill. We were neandrathals in the days of the Trail of Tears. I doubt only but a few most bigoted would agree with those actions today. Andrew Jackson was a thug, in a time of thugs. I get you are trying to play Devils Advocate, but Trump deserves everything he gets. Besides building a bunch of monstrosities for his own financial gain, he has done nothing to forward our country in any meaninful way.
BillRM
 
  0  
Thu 10 Mar, 2016 03:26 pm
@Lilkanyon,
Well do not forget while some tribes was faithful allies others was not and for example fought for the French in the French and English war.

The tribes had powerful military power and in their behaviors on the war path did not match the European ideal of warfare either.

In other word getting those tribes away from English settlements and the women and children in those settlement seem like a damn good idea at the time.

Nothing then or now is pure black or white.

Lilkanyon
 
  2  
Thu 10 Mar, 2016 03:33 pm
@BillRM,
Exactly my point. But how different our country may have been, if Europeans didn't treat them like savage trash, and actually respected their culture and abilities to survive!
You know my ancestors used to spit on Indians, calling them beggar thieves! Gee! Who made them that way. Who stole away their pride, their land, their ability to take care of themselves, then insult them for what was left for them?
BillRM
 
  -1  
Thu 10 Mar, 2016 03:59 pm
@Lilkanyon,
First we picture the Indians being savages with the only good Indian was a dead Indian and from there we moved toward them being victims of white culture.

Both of the above had a tiny bit of truth to it but mainly the truth is somewhere in the middle.

By the way almost none of them was all that peaceful with or without whites being around and they was into tribal warfares and seizing each other hunting grounds and women and when horses show up each other horses.

Lilkanyon
 
  2  
Thu 10 Mar, 2016 04:12 pm
@BillRM,
Cuz you lived their life to know what they fought for? Or what white history taught you? Sure they fought...to protect their lands and families...so?
And tbh? I dont blame them for hating us, europeans, coming to their prestine world and screwing everything up. Can you? Promising peace treaty after treaty and reneging. Buying valuable land for beads and metal tools. Theft after theft of a beautiful symbiotic relationship with nature, leaving destruction in our wake. Hell, I would kill us too.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Thu 10 Mar, 2016 04:18 pm
@BillRM,
We are all aware of your bigotry. Your feeling of superiority is based on ignorance.
BillRM
 
  -1  
Thu 10 Mar, 2016 04:31 pm
@Lilkanyon,
They [the tribes] was into warfare before repeat before Columbus great great grandparents was born and whole tribes was wiped out due to warfare.

See any good book on pre Columbus history.

Quote:


http://www.troynovant.com/Franson/Keeley/War-Before-Civilization.html

Here's one of Keeley's striking examples from pre-Columbian North America:

In some regions of the American Southwest, the violent destruction of prehistoric settlements is well documented and during some periods was even common. ...

For example, the large pueblo at Sand Canyon in Colorado, although protected by a defensive wall, was almost entirely burned; artifacts in the rooms had been deliberately smashed; and bodies of some victims were left lying on the floors. After this catastrophe in the late thirteenth century, the pueblo was never reoccupied.

Another, from the upper Midwest:

Contrary to Brian Ferguson's claim that such [inter-tribal] slaughters were a consequence of contact with modern European or other civilizations, archaeology yields evidence of prehistoric massacres more severe than any recounted in ethnography. For example, at Crow Creek in South Dakota, archaeologists found a mass grave containing the remains of more than 500 men, women, and children who had been slaughtered, scalped, and mutilated during an attack on their village a century and a half before Columbus's arrival (ca. A.D. 1325).

The attack seems to have occurred just when the village's fortifications were being rebuilt. All the houses were burned, and most of the inhabitants were murdered. This death toll represented more than 60 percent of the village's population, estimated from the number of houses to have been about 800. The survivors appear to have been primarily young women, as their skeletons are underrepresented among the bones; if so, they were probably taken away as captives. Certainly, the site was deserted for some time after the attack because the bodies evidently remained exposed to scavenging animals for a few weeks before burial. In other words, this whole village was annihilated in a single attack and never reoccupied.

BillRM
 
  -2  
Thu 10 Mar, 2016 04:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
We are all aware of your bigotry. Your feeling of superiority is based on ignorance.


LOL and this coming from a person who would wish to paint any white person as evil and any nonwhite person as a poor victim.

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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 10 Mar, 2016 04:35 pm
@BillRM,
Your myopia is showing big time. Just look at the history of England-Ireland, Europe, and Asia. If you bother to look, there are atrocities galore in all of them.
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