@farmerman,
And you think that's rain hitting you in the face...
@revelette,
revelette wrote:Example of what freedom means for some conservatives:
Sen. Mike Lee Calls Child Labor Laws Unconstitutional
Remember, if anyone wants a person of
ANY age to labor against his will,
he finds his defense in the 13th Amendment.
It shoud be be rightfully up to him.
Suppose that a kid wants to go into business for himself,
or just to get a job for some extra cash,
that is
HIS private decision; "equal protection of the laws".
David
@OmSigDAVID,
Kids under a certain age aren't legally allowed to make life decisions for themselves.
Cycloptichorn
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:Kids under a certain age aren't legally allowed to
make life decisions for themselves.
Cycloptichorn
That is sodomizing the kid.
Every citizen is supposed to have "equal protection of the laws".
David
@OmSigDAVID,
That's not what the word 'sodomizing' means. You can't just use words to mean whatever you want.
Cycloptichorn
@Cycloptichorn,
Cyclotroll knows best, sodomy is a liberal thing.
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:That's not what the word 'sodomizing' means.
You can't just use words to mean whatever you want.
Cycloptichorn
The youthful citizen is getting screwed out of his right to work.
He is getting it up the ass by liberals.
What more do u want ??????????
David
@OmSigDAVID,
The youth doesn't HAVE a right to work. There's no right to work in the Constitution.
You really have no idea what you are talking about at all here, regarding child labor laws, do you? Just an opinion.
Cycloptichorn
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
Cyclotroll knows best, sodomy is a liberal thing.
except in airport men's rooms of course. and the catholic church. and certain baptist and pentecostal circles
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:The youth doesn't HAVE a right to work. There's no right to work in the Constitution.
You really have no idea what you are talking about at all here, regarding child labor laws, do you? Just an opinion.
Cycloptichorn
I 'm getting a little
REDUNDANT here:
"Every citizen is supposed to have "equal protection of the laws"."
That
IS in the Constitution.
I said it b4 and I 'll say it
NOW,
since u don't seem to have gotten it the first time.
David
@georgeob1,
Quote:The ACLU is making unjustified and innacurate categorical statements here.
That's your's, MM's, Okie's, Ican's, Finn's, ... purview, Gob and you don't even have the common decency to aim for the gutters.
@OmSigDAVID,
WOW! just WOW!.
This guy is a mensan? This guy actually practiced law? Musta been when he had a mind.
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:Freedom means that government leaves u the hell alone.
You mean, like telling you what countries you can visit, right, Om?
The child labor laws were put into place for a very good reason, there were horrible abuses with children having work in mills and factories which was not healthy or educational. Luckily, the SC finally upheld the child labor laws in 1941. It did not ban children from working, just working in unsafe or unhealthy conditions.
Quote:Keating-Owen Child Labor Act of 1916 (1916)
The first child labor bill, the Keating-Owen bill of 1916, was based on Senator Albert J. Beveridge's proposal from 1906 and used the government's ability to regulate interstate commerce to regulate child labor. The act banned the sale of products from any factory, shop, or cannery that employed children under the age of 14, from any mine that employed children under the age of 16, and from any facility that had children under the age of 16 work at night or for more than 8 hours during the day. Although the Keating-Owen Act was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson, the Supreme Court ruled that it was unconstitutional because it overstepped the purpose of the government's powers to regulate interstate commerce. A second child labor bill was passed in December of 1918. It also took an indirect route to regulate child labor, this time by using the government's power to levy taxes. It, too, was soon found to be unconstitutional in Hammer v. Dagenhart 247 U. S. 251 (1918). The Court reasoned that “The power of Congress to regulate interstate commerce does not extend to curbing the power of the states to regulate local trade.”
Despite the nation's apparent desire for federal laws against child labor, the Supreme Court's rulings left little room for federal legislation. A constitutional amendment was soon proposed to give Congress the power to regulate child labor. The campaign for ratification of the Child Labor Amendment was stalled in the 1920s by an effective campaign to discredit it. Opponents' charges ranged from traditional states' rights arguments against increases in the power of the Federal Government to accusations that the amendment was a communist-inspired plot to subvert the Constitution. Federal protection of children would not be obtained until passage of the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1938, which was also challenged before the Supreme Court. This time, the movement to end child labor was victorious. In February of 1941, the Supreme Court reversed its opinion in Hammer v. Dagenhart and, in U. S. v. Darby (1941), upheld the constitutionality of the Fair Labor Standards Act. It is still in force today.
source
From the care2 website:
With Republican majorities in 20 state legislatures, Tea Party activists and the GOP have wasted no time narrowing the curriculum and starting an assault on diversity education. State by state, the attacks add up to a steady undermining of the freedoms and rights earned since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1965. Here are some examples of what's going on:
Tennessee
Tennessee Tea Party activists presented a list of their demands to their state representatives as state legislatures around the nation geared up for a new session.
One such demand involves teaching the "truth" about the state's history, with "truth" defined as:
"No portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership."
Fayette County attorney Hal Rounds, the group’s lead spokesman during the news conference, said the group wants to address "an awful lot of made-up criticism about, for instance, the founders intruding on the Indians or having slaves or being hypocrites in one way or another."
In essence, the point is to cast doubt on the contributions of Native and African American people (one would have to prove it "actually occurred" first) and teach a highly selective history of what the Founding Fathers did and said. For example, the fact that Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner, which conflicts with "All men are created equal," the words he helped pen, would probably be struck from Tennessee classrooms.
Tea Party partisans want to cherry pick the parts of history they agree with and minimize the rest. This is intellectually dishonest and diminishes the value and contribution of nonwhites to America. It is also untrue to the facts of how our history unfolded and disrespectful to the methods embraced by generations of scholars in establishing what we know.
Arizona
The ban on ethnic studies in Arizona has pitted teachers who value multicultural education and academic freedom against a school board that won't defend their opposition to the ban.
Arizona is 31% Mexican American and Native American. Eleven teachers are currently willing to go to court to teach accurate history and for the academic freedom to teach Mexican American history as it is widely accepted.
North Carolina
Recently, right-wing activists backed by Tea Party-astroturfers the Koch brothers * successfully dissolved a successful integration program in North Carolina:
The integration plan, which created thriving schools in poor African-American parts of the school district along with achieving diversity in schools located in wealthy white enclaves, was a model for the nation. However, Americans for Prosperity (AFP), the Tea Party group founded and funded by billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch, worked with local right-wing financier (and AFP board member) Art Pope to fundamentally change Wake County’s school board...
North Carolina is 22% African American.
Minnesota
Within days of the beginning of Minnesota's legislative session, the GOP has introduced an English-language only law that puts non-native speakers on the defensive and would remove multilingual documentation of government regulations, applications, voting instructions, benefits applications, and other official business.
Among the first bills introduced in the Minnesota House this session is one aimed at establishing English as the official language of the state. Republican Reps. Steve Drazkowski of Mazeppa, David Hancock of Bemidji, Sondra Erickson of Princeton, and Roger Crawford of Mora introduced the bill on Monday.
HF 64 would make English the official language of Minnesota: "No law, ordinance, order, program, or policy of this state or any of its political subdivisions, shall require the use of any language other than English for any documents, regulations, orders, transactions, proceedings, meetings, programs, or publications, except as provided in subdivision 3."
English is already the de facto official language of the United States. Limiting all official documentation to English would have the effect of denying non-native speaking citizens, permanent residents, and others with legal documentation full and equal access to important government services. Department of Motor Vehicle paperwork, for example, would all be in English, as would voter registration information. Attempts to institute English-only laws have historically been intended to limit access and stigmatize people whose first language is not English, despite their legal right to use services and participate in democracy.
The Tea Party agenda is to re-write history from a conservative point of view to remove the contributions of nonwhites in the hopes of discounting their perspectives, contributions, and growing political power. Right-wing activists hope to stall the demographic shift when nonwhites make up a numerical majority, and instead lock up power and influence in their waning numbers. Their vision of America is a zero-sum game, as if gains must mean someone else's loss.
Instead, we must work to ensure that our nation remains the land of expanding opportunity, capable of encompassing everyone who works hard and contributes to this country. That begins with making a place for cultural, religious, sexual, and language minorities in our histories and in public life.
* Our resident toddler and consistent town crier warning the limited populace of this forum against George Soros will find a way to deny that the truly evil kochs have done anything wrong.
@hingehead,
Not only is splish-splash's statement about liberals hating freedom stupid, it is contradicted by reality.
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:Freedom means that government leaves u the hell alone.
But corporations can dictate your every move in the world according to david, the 20th C male mad woman in the attic.
@revelette,
Because david had no children, this law is, to him, irrelevant. As long as the kiddies are sent off the school with a 38 in their lunchbox, the sun is shining and god is in his heaven.
@OmSigDAVID,
A kid wants to go into business for himself? Like the five year olds who threaded bobbins in 19th C mills and ended up toothless for life because of the chemicals in the threads. david, you need a road map to learn where the real world is.
