H2O MAN
 
  0  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 11:10 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cyclotroll, why don't you show us where "slavery" is mentioned in our Constitution.

Let's have a look at the mindset you liberal progressive democrats have
Fido
 
  1  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 11:50 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Your flair for the theatrical is getting out of hand.
That may be the nicest thing you have ever said to me... Do we have to make nice now???
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Fido
 
  1  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 11:53 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



Speaking of dumb... why does the left totally ignore our Constitution?
They like the bill of rights... The fact is that the contitution has about as many contradictions as the bible per inch... Inevitably the privilages of religion and press and property will come into conflict with the rights of man, and government, thinking itself apart from the people will build a wall between itself and the people who it fears...
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Fido
 
  0  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 11:56 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

It's a real breath of fresh air to see politicians taking our Constitution seriously.


Serious is a new word for lip service???...

If any of them took the thing seriously they would start with the preamble, judge the product against the process and damn the whole thing to the junk heap of history... The constitution is garbage... They all swear to it, and then set about getting around it... It is an old dog that has no teeth against evil, and no bowel control... It is time to move on dot org, or something
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 02:34 pm
@Fido,
H2O MAN wrote:
It's a real breath of fresh air to see politicians taking our Constitution seriously.
Fido wrote:
Serious is a new word for lip service???...

If any of them took the thing seriously they would start with the preamble, judge the product against the process and damn the whole thing to the junk heap of history... The constitution is garbage... They all swear to it, and then set about getting around it... It is an old dog that has no teeth against evil, and no bowel control... It is time to move on dot org, or something
Fido, you are garbage (tedious garbage). Its time to move on.
I 'm putting u on Ignore and leaving u behind.

I don 't wanna see u any more and now I will not.





David
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 05:52 pm
Wuh oh! Day one was not without its' hiccups.

Quote:
Pete Sessions Breaks Rules, Briefly Shuts Down Rules Committee

Evan McMorris-Santoro | January 6, 2011, 5:17PM

Call it a stumble out of the gate. Or a failure to find the gate entirely. Veteran Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX) and freshman Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick (R-PA) failed to make the official swearing in ceremony yesterday, a violation of the Constitution that has sent Republicans scrambling and briefly brought an end to the new majority's push to repeal the health care reform law.

While the rest of the House was being made official in the chamber, Sessions and Fitzpatrick were outside the room at an event for Fitzpatrick supporters. The pair reportedly took their oath to a televised image from inside the chamber. Huffington Post's Ryan Grimm reports the event was part of fundraiser for Fitzpatrick.

Freshly-minted House Rules Committee chair David Dreier (R-CA) had to recess hearings on repealing the health care law after he learned that Sessions, a member of the committee, was not in fact a Constitutionally-valid member of the 112th Congress. Sessions had been casting votes all day like the duly-sworn members on the committee.

Dreier spokesperson Jo Maney told TPM that she "didn't know it happened" that Sessions wasn't sworn in, but after Dreier found out about it, he recessed the hearing to sort out the mess.

Sessions has now been officially sworn in as required by the Constitution, Maney said. The same goes for Fitzpatrick, she said, though that's of less concern to the health care repeal as he's not a member of the Rules Committee like Sessions is. But the failure to be sworn in could mean the rules package the House passed on Wednesday doesn't count, according to Roll Call. The action is now behind the scenes, as Speaker John Boehner tries to persuade House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to agree to a unanimous consent decree that would make all the work Sessions and Fitzpatrick did over the past day count retroactively.

Pelosi's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment on how that process is going.

The foul-up by Fitzpatrick and Sessions, both of whom have been sworn in to Congress before (Fitzpatrick defeated Rep. Patrick Murphy [D], who defeated Fitzpatrick in 2006) is simple: the pair were not in the House chamber when the rest of the House was sworn in. Sessions' office sent over this statement explaining the situation:
Quote:

"During the swearing in of the 112th Congress, Congressman Sessions stated the oath publicly in the Capitol but was not on the House floor. To ensure that all constitutional and House requirements are fulfilled, Congressman Sessions officially took the oath of office this afternoon from the House floor. Public records and votes will be adjusted accordingly."


Where was Sessions? He was with Fitzpatrick at an event for Fitzpatrick supporters held in the Capitol Visitors Center, a massive underground complex attached to the Capitol Building.

From the Bucks County, PA Courier Times, which covered the event:
Quote:

Wednesday, a sea of about 500 supporters overwhelmed a large room in the Capitol and caught a break when the Bucks County native took the oath of office in front of them rather than on the House floor.

"That wasn't planned. It just worked out that way," said Fitzpatrick, who happened to be introducing Texas Congressman Pete Sessions while glad-handing his supporters in the Capitol Visitor Center that he secured for them when the House swearing in began.


The story has an accompanying photo of Sessions and Fitzpatrick taking their oath of office in the auditorium, where the event was being televised live.

Sessions was chair of the NRCC in 2010, charged with racking up victories like the Fitzpatrick's on behalf of the GOP. By stopping off to take a victory lap on the day the 112th Congress he helped craft began, it seems Sessions (temporarily) left himself out of it.


http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/pete-sessions-breaks-rules-shuts-down-rules-committee-1.php?ref=fpblg

Pelosi ought to make them do everything over again. But, she'll probably take the high road and just let it slide.

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 06:21 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Fido, David is doing you a big favor; he's not exactly the "normal" human, American, on these threads.

I agree with you that it's a waste of time for the House to read the Constitution; it's been working for over 200 years without it being read before each new congress. As a matter of fact, the two times it was read was in the 19th century.

These yokels don't seem to understand that ours is a democratic republic that operates under the judicial, legislative, and executive branches with their specific functions that must comply with the US Constitution.

The founders intentionally left many sections of the US Constitution with general directives, because it would otherwise occupy too many details and many that would be missed if they attempted to detail everything.

If each member (Tea Party) of the House do not understand the US Constitution, what are they doing representing their constituents?
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 07:10 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:


ours is a democratic republic


Are you tripping?

Come on, you can tell us.

revelette
 
  0  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 08:33 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Needed a laught, cyclop. So they were not sworn in becasue they were under ground posing for pictures. Sessions voted on bills anyway and they had to stop the health care repeal bill so that Sessions could be officially sworn in? Laughing
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Fido
 
  0  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 11:16 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:
It's a real breath of fresh air to see politicians taking our Constitution seriously.
Fido wrote:
Serious is a new word for lip service???...

If any of them took the thing seriously they would start with the preamble, judge the product against the process and damn the whole thing to the junk heap of history... The constitution is garbage... They all swear to it, and then set about getting around it... It is an old dog that has no teeth against evil, and no bowel control... It is time to move on dot org, or something
Fido, you are garbage (tedious garbage). Its time to move on.
I 'm putting u on Ignore and leaving u behind.

I don 't wanna see u any more and now I will not.





David
You're a towel... Seriously... And all the back bone of a towel, too.
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Fido
 
  3  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 11:19 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
What is the point of people taking oaths they will never abide by???
cicerone imposter
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 11:25 pm
@Fido,
Makes you wonder, doesn't it? They pledge to uphold the Constitution of the US, and they're still not sure about it's content.

Something is backwards here; shouldn't they know what they're promising before raising their right hand to say "I do?"
Fido
 
  0  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 11:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Fido, David is doing you a big favor; he's not exactly the "normal" human, American, on these threads.

I agree with you that it's a waste of time for the House to read the Constitution; it's been working for over 200 years without it being read before each new congress. As a matter of fact, the two times it was read was in the 19th century.

These yokels don't seem to understand that ours is a democratic republic that operates under the judicial, legislative, and executive branches with their specific functions that must comply with the US Constitution.

The founders intentionally left many sections of the US Constitution with general directives, because it would otherwise occupy too many details and many that would be missed if they attempted to detail everything.

If each member (Tea Party) of the House do not understand the US Constitution, what are they doing representing their constituents?
Parties are extra constitutional, and so is the limiting of members of the house to a fixed number... It has allowed the parties to stand between the people and their government, and to give another level of inertia the people must move to get the whole thing to move when it was created with inertia in the form of the highly anti democratic Senate... Is it fair in some sense or any sense for a state that cannot send two representatives to congress should have the same senate representation as a vast number like California... How can it be democratic when open miles and cattle have the same representation as human beings??? The situation is corrupting, but it could be over come if the house had the same representation per person as the founder had... Were they so much better and are we so much worse that they could have one representative for every 30K, and we must settle for one rep for over 600K from deliberatly divided districts??? A democracy would solve our problems; but this we are not allowed...
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Fido
 
  0  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 11:31 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:


ours is a democratic republic


Are you tripping?

Come on, you can tell us.


No; democratic means like a democracy just as athletic means like an athelete... The government was designed with the means to deny democracy its power, and the parties have only made the situation worse... While union, perfect union is a goal of the contitution, they have carved the people and their districts up for themselves, giving the people only so much as is necessary to avoid worse from some other... They do not lead us, but follow us, doing all they can to keep their hands on us and our money...
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Fido
 
  1  
Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2011 11:35 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Makes you wonder, doesn't it? They pledge to uphold the Constitution of the US, and they're still not sure about it's content.

Something is backwards here; shouldn't they know what they're promising before raising their right hand to say "I do?"

Can you or any fair minded person read the preamble of the constitution, and look about them at the failure of that formed government to reach those goals, and instead, see all those goals desparaged and fought against by those elected to achieve them, and not peonounce the whole government a failure??? It cannot be fixed... If fortune is with us we can still kill it before it kills us...
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OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 01:31 am
@Cycloptichorn,
It looks like thay WERE sworn in.
Does someone claim that the Constitution requires
that new Congressmen be rubbing elbows with their pals
on the House Floor, when thay take the Oath???
I DON 'T believe that it DOES. I did not see that in there.

It does not hurt to do it again,
nor a few more times.

If thay got sworn in 2ice,
then presumably, thay each get 2 votes.
THAT must be the reason thay did it.

The GOP shoud have thawt of that SOONER.





David
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farmerman
 
  2  
Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 03:59 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
why don't you show us where "slavery" is mentioned in our Constitution.
You are really not too well educated spurt. If I were you Id stop challenging folks with your stupidity.
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 04:39 am
@farmerman,
Thank you for proving your ignorance once again farmgirl.
farmerman
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 06:58 am
@H2O MAN,
OK genius. You say that SLAVERY doesnt appear in the US CONSTITUTION. I say it does. Lets bet. The loser has to wish the winner long life and prosperity and, further, he must admit what an asshole he (the loser) is.
H2O MAN
 
  0  
Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 07:19 am
@farmerman,
Farmgirl, do you have a reading problem? Are you really this stupid?

I asked Cyclotroll to show us where "slavery" is mentioned in our Constitution... he has provided no proof.
 

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