The Dietary Control Zealots Strike Again

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The San Francisco Board of Supervisors gave preliminary approval Tuesday to banning toy giveaways in Happy Meals and similar fast-food offerings aimed at kids unless they have reduced sodium, fat and sugar content and include fruit and vegetables.

The legislation, which sponsors said is intended to promote healthy eating and help combat childhood obesity, was passed on an 8-3 vote - the bare minimum needed to overturn Mayor Gavin Newsom's promised veto.

The board is scheduled to take a final vote next week. If it goes on the books, the restrictions wouldn't go into effect until December 2011.

"This is a tremendous victory for our children's health," said Supervisor Eric Mar, chief sponsor of the legislation.

http://www.seattlepi.com/lifestyle/429496_happymeals02.html

At this rate we will be practicing our own version of Sharia Law before very long. Boo.

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Do they really think ditching the toy will stop people from taking their kids to McDonalds? That's unbelievably silly.

I think anyone who thinks this is a major nutritional victory for children has never spent 5 minutes with a kid.

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@boomerang,

Yeah, this is just a stupid stunt.

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@DrewDad,

Oh yeah, most of Hawkeye's rants are just stupid stunts.

Oh . . . wait . . . you meant the SF Supervisors' measure. Yeah, that, too . . .

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@hawkeye10,

I wonder if Chick-Filet will have to stop giving out educational children's books and games in their happy meals (assuming CF is in San Francisco). Many fast food chains allow the children to turn in the toy for soft serve ice cream. I guess the Board of Supervisors thinks that is a better give away.

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@engineer,

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I wonder if Chick-Filet will have to stop giving out educational children's books and games in their happy meals

IDK, but i do know that over the last few years McD's has added healthy options to their happy meals, ones that cost a lot more than the standard fare in food costs so they are already taking a profit hit trying to stay on the good side of the dietary police. Sometimes i see kids eating the healthy options, but not a lot. I wonder if McD execs are wondering just what they need to do to get off of the hit list. Maybe they will resist now, for for parents rights to decide what is best for their kids, call for government to stop interfering in personal freedom of choice.

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@hawkeye10,

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IDK, but i do know that over the last few years McD's has added healthy options to their happy meals, ones that cost a lot more than the standard fare in food costs so they are already taking a profit hit trying to stay on the good side of the dietary police.

Apple slices and salad cost that much more money? I have a hard time believing that.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

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Apple slices and salad cost that much more money? I have a hard time believing that.

than frozen potatoes?? are you serious? And milk cost them @40 cents I figure where the soda is about nothing. Salad is very expensive with the labor and throw away....I was reading about a year ago that McD makes nothing on Salad overall, that it is on the menu for PR reasons and because they can sell more of what they want to sell if they offer salad (because mom will eat salad, the rest not,but if mom had rejected Mcd they would have sold nothing to the party) not sure that is right though.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B06E5DB113AF933A15751C0A9639C8B63&sec=health&spon=

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Apple slices and salad cost that much more money? I have a hard time believing that.

Then you need to educate yourself about food subsidies.

http://www.pcrm.org/magazine/gm07autumn/images/pyramid.jpg

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@DrewDad,

Well, that does shed some light on it. Combine that with the fact that McD's uses the lowest quality materials whenever possible, and it's easy to see why a burger is so cheap, I guess.

Whereas it's hard to use low-quality lettuce, say, and get people to keep buying your salads. You can't fake it as easily as they do the 'meat.'

Thanks, great informative graphic.

Cycloptichorn

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The idea is dumb, but getting worked up over it can hardly be considered different. This is so ******* trivial hawkeye. Even for you.

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@failures art,

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This is so ******* trivial hawkeye. Even for you.

i dont consider government criminalizing dietary choices a trivial matter. I consider it a manifestation of a rouge government that attacks the citizens, and which needs to be brought to heal.

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@hawkeye10,

Who goes to jail? Who gets prosecuted? How has anything been criminalized here?

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@Setanta,

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Who gets prosecuted?

that would be the person in charge of the fast food operation that handed out toys with food that did not meet the legal requirement.....normally the manager.

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@hawkeye10,

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i dont consider government criminalizing dietary choices a trivial matter. I consider it a manifestation of a rouge government that attacks the citizens, and which needs to be brought to heal.

I agree. It is the job of parents, not government, to choose what they allow their kids to eat. Now, if the government spent their time on stuff like jobs and the economy, and kept their nose out of private matters............................Well, maybe now they will!!!

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@hawkeye10,

Uh huh . . . and you are certain that such an individual would be liable to criminal prosecution as opposed to the Supevisors levying a fine?

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Just to be sure, i read that article again. I see nothing in there asserting that any individual would be subject to criminal prosecution. Don't make **** up, Boy.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

... great informative graphic.

Great graphic - deliberately left unsourced because it has no connection to the actual sums shelled out by the USDA in agricultural subsidies:

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More than 90 percent of agriculture subsidies go to farmers of five crops—wheat, corn, soybeans, rice, and cotton.

Source: http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/agriculture/subsidies#3

The "food pyramid" is why we're so fat - we never evolved to eat grains, the agricultural revolution being only a few thousand years old. It's also why our animals have to be fed gigantic amounts of antibiotics; they didn't evolve to eat grains either; not to mention they're are being tortured in "factory farms" - sentient beings monstrously treated like machinery. It's also why we pollute our waters with runoff containing fertilizers (necessary in monoculture, unnecessary with crop rotation), pesticides, antibiotics, sewage, and on and on. All this before allowing for distortions subsidies cause to world trade.

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@boomerang,

You're right there - the SF supervisors overreached in their latest fiat. They should have stayed with their initial target, sugary sodas. If there's anyone on this thread unfamiliar with the sugar / fructose link with the obesity epidemic, invest 89 minutes without delay to watch this UC biochemistry video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

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@High Seas,

P.S. edit - sugar growers also get subsidies, but the link between heavily subsidized corn and added food sweeteners is high-fructose-corn-sugar.

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