Ugh. Just ugh.

Believe whatever you wish. Can you predict the future?

georgeob1 wrote:

Believe whatever you wish. Can you predict the future?

I can but I can't vouch for the accuracy of those predictions.

AMERICANS: “So, the economy is pretty bad and there’s high employment. You think you can do something about that?”
DEMOCRATS AND OBAMA: “We can spend a trillion dollars we don’t have on pork and stuff.”
AMERICANS: “No … that’s not what we want. We’d really like you not to do that.”
DEMOCRATS: “You’re stupid. We’re doing it anyway.”
AMERICANS: “That’s not going to help us get jobs!”
DEMOCRATS: “Sure it will; millions of them … though they may be invisible. You’ll have to trust us they exist. And guess what else we’ll do: We’ll create a giant new government program to take over health care.”
AMERICANS: “That has nothing to do with jobs!”
DEMOCRATS: “We don’t care about that anymore. We really want a giant new health care program. We’re sure you’ll love it.”
AMERICANS: “Don’t pass that bill. You hear me? Absolutely do not pass that bill.”
DEMOCRATS: “Believe me; you’ll love it. It has … well, I don’t know what exactly is in the bill, but we’re sure it’s great.”
AMERICANS: “Listen to me: DO. NOT. PASS. THAT. BILL.”
DEMOCRATS: “You’re not the boss of me! We’re doing it anyway!”
AMERICANS: “Look what you did! Now the economy is way worse, we’re even deeper in debt, and we have a bunch of new laws we don’t want!”
DEMOCRATS: “You’re racist.”
AMERICANS: “Wha … How is that racist?”
DEMOCRATS: “Now you’re getting violent! Stop being violent and racist, you ignorant hillbillies! And remember to vote Democrat in November.”

WOW. If you think that diatribe is cuttingly accurate,

"It's no diatribe, it's a quoted dialogue, duly attributed to original source, with posted link. Learn to read, quote, edit - and get a dictionary. "

Your post was the diatribe and I believe you added the reference to Stalin and the cuttingly accurate description.

I have a dictionary, and I stand by my comments. It's still absolute bullshit.

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My analysis:

AMERICANS: “So, the economy is pretty bad and there’s high employment. You think you can do something about that?”

TRUTH --- The last administration left the economy in free fall with Wall Street about to collapse. HELP !!!

Whether or not this is "truth," it doesn't have relevance, in the context of the article.

DEMOCRATS AND OBAMA: “We can spend a trillion dollars we don’t have on pork and stuff.”

TRUTH - The stimulus was 1/3 tax cuts from the GOP and they shared gleefully in the pork.

Once again your alleged "truth" has no relevance to the statement you intend to question. If we assume that the GOP gleefully shared in the pork, how does that change the fact that the Democrats engineered it?

AMERICANS: “No … that’s not what we want. We’d really like you not to do that.”

TRUTH - Most Americans supported the bailout. What other choice was there?

Now your comments are not even in sync. The quote you referenced doesn't relate to the bailout, it relates to the stimulus.

DEMOCRATS: “You’re stupid. We’re doing it anyway.”

See previous comment.

In other words, "You're stupid, see my other comment."

AMERICANS: “That’s not going to help us get jobs!”
DEMOCRATS: “Sure it will; millions of them … though they may be invisible. You’ll have to trust us they exist. And guess what else we’ll do: We’ll create a giant new government program to take over health care.”

TRUTH - yes it did help jobs. Ask a few hundred thousand workers who still work for GM or Chrysler.

Again you are confusing the bailouts with the stimulus package. The stimulus package was promised to keep unemployment below 8% --- it did not. The bailout of the auto industry saved union jobs. These are, afterall, jobs and not to be completely discounted, but they weren't created and a whole lot of moneyt was spent on "saving" a small fraction of jobs.

AMERICANS: “That has nothing to do with jobs!”
DEMOCRATS: “We don’t care about that anymore. We really want a giant new health care program. We’re sure you’ll love it.”

TRUTH - Health care was in shambles and most Americans believed it needed reform. It still does. Also, calling it giant is a bit of an exaggeration.

AMERICANS: “Don’t pass that bill. You hear me? Absolutely do not pass that bill.”
DEMOCRATS: “Believe me; you’ll love it. It has … well, I don’t know what exactly is in the bill, but we’re sure it’s great.”
AMERICANS: “Listen to me: DO. NOT. PASS. THAT. BILL.”
DEMOCRATS: “You’re not the boss of me! We’re doing it anyway!”

TRUTH - more rhetoric only meant to incite anger. Those words may have come from a few misguided senators, not the American people I know.

And yet the American people whom you, apparently, don't know just voted for the biggest transfer of power in about 80 years.

Pauline Kael, former NY Times critic, once famously decried Richard Nixon's humbling defeat of George McGovern as follows:

"How did Nixon win? I don't know anyone who voted for him!"

AMERICANS: “Look what you did! Now the economy is way worse, we’re even deeper in debt, and we have a bunch of new laws we don’t want!”

TRUTH - Worse than what? If you want debt, look to Reagan's and Bush's military spending. And, why did we have to bail out Wall St.? Didn't that start about October 2008 ? The economy has finally stopped falling. I wonder where we'd be if GW had been in office the last two years?

So, the economy is not "way worse" than it was under either Bush or Reagan?

We're not even deeper in debt than we were at the end of 2008?

DEMOCRATS: “You’re racist.”
AMERICANS: “Wha … How is that racist?”
DEMOCRATS: “Now you’re getting violent! Stop being violent and racist, you ignorant hillbillies! And remember to vote Democrat in November.”

NO COMMENT needed on these last line. Pure drama.

It has been a deliberate left-wing tactic to label Obama's opponents racist, ignorant and potentially violent. The examples are numerous. If you prefer not to comment on this tactic, I canunderstand why.

georgeob1 wrote:

Hold on to that thought !

I just don't understand where your confidence comes from, re: shutting down the government and the supposed popular support of it. You know as well as I do that the media will crucify the Republicans for doing it, and your own 2012 presidential candidates will run from such an action as fast as they can.

Are there examples of forced Gov't shutdowns which have EVER turned out well for the opposition party? Generally you want evidence of a tactic having success in the past before recommending it in the future.

Cycloptichorn

The media will crucify the GOP no matter what they do.

You know as well as I do that the media will crucify the Republicans for doing it...

Hey, by and large you liberals own the media. You should be celebrating it and yet you always want to deny it and at the same time exaggerate the influence of Fox.