Should able2know ban people for having untoward opinions?

Is that a true fact ?

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I would have to guess that suicide can't be forgiven because there is none to ask forgiveness

And you would be wrong...are you not from the West? The is fundamental Christian theology, and I believe that the Jews and Muslims are in agreement on this point.

Suicide is the one sin that will not be, can not be forgiven, when you reach your maker after death. It is a very special, very heinous, crime against God.

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Being from the West, I must very obviously be Christian, Muslim, or Jew, right hawkeye?

of course not, but you damn well better take the time to learn some of the major traditions and beliefs of your people.

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July 28, 2008
Majority of Americans Believe in God. A large majority of Americans (78%) say they believe in God and 15% say they don’t believe in God, but do believe in a higher power

http://www.gallup.com/video/109111/majority-americans-believe-god.aspx

Europeans dont believe in God anywhere near as much as Americans, but they tend to take care to know where they come from, they are going to know the history of suicide being not forgivable, they are going to know the basic tenets of Christianity. Canadians IDK, them people are strange...are you a Canadian?

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Being from the West, I must very obviously be Christian, Muslim, or Jew, right hawkeye?

of course not, but you damn well better take the time to learn some of the major traditions and beliefs of your people.

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July 28, 2008
Majority of Americans Believe in God. A large majority of Americans (78%) say they believe in God and 15% say they don’t believe in God, but do believe in a higher power

http://www.gallup.com/video/109111/majority-americans-believe-god.aspx

Europeans dont believe in God anywhere near as much as Americans, but they tend to take care to know where they come from, they are going to know the history of suicide being not forgivable, they are going to know the basic tenets of Christianity. Canadians IDK, them people are strange...are you a Canadian?

knowing something and believing something are two vastly different things

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In fact, the subjecct of this thread is not political rectitude, it is whether or not people should be banned for their opinions.

That is nonsensical. Of course people should be banned from A2K for their opinions if they go outside a certain, quite limited, political acceptability.....The only question is the limits. And who applies them. Hence PC-compliance.

"............There's glory for you!'
`I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don't -- till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'
`But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.
`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'
`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'
`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master -- that's all.'
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. `They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs: they're the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs -- however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'
`Would you tell me please,' said Alice, `what that means?'

Well, I, for one, have no intention of answering your question.

If you want a suicide debate go ahead, start a thread. You're on your own as far as I am concerned right now.

Why on earth would you feel entitled to an answer on an issue that has been mentioned tangentially on a thread, however misbegotten, on whether people should be banned for "untoward" opinions?

Me? I am off to bed and then to the back of beyond for a week.

Good grief.

i live my life (and my internet life even more so), by this exchange

`That depends a good deal on where you want to get to,' said the Cat.

`I don't much care where--' said Alice.

`Then it doesn't matter which way you go,' said the Cat.

`--so long as I get somewhere,' Alice added as an explanation.

`Oh, you're sure to do that,' said the Cat, `if you only walk long enough.'

Alice felt that this could not be denied, so she tried another question. `What sort of people live about here?'

`In that direction,' the Cat said, waving its right paw round, `lives a Hatter: and in that direction,' waving the other paw, `lives a March Hare. Visit either you like: they're both mad.'

`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.

`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'

`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.

`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'

This thread is out of control....

I would have to guess that suicide can't be forgiven because there is noone to ask forgiveness.

I must admit that I am somewhat confused. I never mentioned wanting a suicide debate and would never participate in one.
I am sure that this must be a case of confusion on one of our parts. Doesn't matter which one and no need to continue.

I would have to guess that suicide can't be forgiven because there is noone to ask forgiveness.

...... people who are susceptible to harming themselves at the sight of a few words on a screen. Such a susceptibility is surely a serious weakness from a Darwinian perspective and a candidate for weeding out.

Utter, unmitigated, and inexcusable nonsense. Even viewed from the most crassly pecuniary Darwinian perspective a college student has already cost an absolute minimum of $750,000 to bring up, educate, keep in good physical shape etc; it's rational for society as a whole to want to save that investment.