Should able2know ban people for having untoward opinions?

I'm sure people here read very carefully which is why I choose my words carefully. I said 'might' because I haven't read any of your posts on the evolution site so I'm not in a position to judge whether you are trolling there or not. Your own description of your interactions on the evolution website gave the impression that you might be a troll. I don't see the word 'troll' as being anything to do with a particular set of values. I see it, in accordance with definitions I've found on the internet, as being more about someone's intention in posting. I've definitely known people whose values and opinions I generally agree with who I believe engage in quite a bit of 'trolling'.

I'm curious to know what an atheist 'who goes all they way' is and why whether or not I believe in God has anything to do with this. And I'm also interested in what any of this has to do with whether I shave my legs or not. If it makes a difference - I do shave my legs, am quite petite and usually softly spoken.

Just like spendius.

I bet her breath ain't as bad.

You must never have seen Benny Hill's "halitosis" sketch ed.

Haven't seen Benny Hill in many years.

It is but the point NoOne made is spot on, the concept is well defined but the application is inherently subjective. Likewise beauty has been well defined but is in the eye of the beholder.

He knows but wanted to draw attention to a post he made that was popular. So let's all check it out (wasn't half-bad actually).

I must disagree only with the part that says, "If you want others to know you thought it was good, you thumb it up. "

They will know that somebody thought it was good or agreed with it, but they will not know who gave the thumbs up. Or, down. Except Robert and company perhaps.

I have seen this in parachuting. Usually after about 10-20 jumps, people ask themselves why are they doing it. Everyone asks themselves a question eventually.....should I keep going at this ? In your case, do the benefits of stamp collecting outweigh the time and cost involved. How do you convince someone your stamps are better.....

No he is not using it as a metaphor, when Bill has decided someone is a "bad guy" trash is exactly like he wants to treat them. He believes that pedophiles* should just kill themselves, even if they have never committed any crime and have no intention of doing so. He says he doesn't care that they are born that way, doesn't care if they successfully fight it but should just kill themselves just to eliminate the risk of abuse occurring.

Bill is all about finding human "trash" to take out and it is one of my fundamental qualms with his positions too. It is a thoroughly ignorant position that a lot of people take up, trying to distance themselves from monsters when the reality is that there is often little dispositional difference.

But he rejects trivialities like life being more nuanced than a comic book and he likes his world black and white. He has all the nuance of a Ying-Yang as he divides people into "good" people and "bad" people and works himself into a self-righteous indignation about the "trash" the posturing clearly makes him a man apart from.

It's like an action movie posing as philosophy and is a significant part of nearly every disagreement I have with him. He rejects all nuance and just blusters on at how obvious his distinctions between the good guys and bad guys are. The truth is that in real life monsters are not the 2-dimensional cardboard characters Bill would have them be. But to even mention that his world is one of ridiculous reductionism just lands you in another reductionism: a bad guy sympathizer. So when folks like dlowan and myself point out how his bad guys are caricatures he just tells us that he just doesn't have the soft hearts that we do to sympathize with pedophiles, when in reality we are just trying to explain to him that he's living in a cartoon world and don't necessarily harbor any sympathy for anyone in the matter.

*Note that a pedophile is someone with a strong chronologically discordant sexual preference, not the colloquial definition of one who actually realizes the preference and is a child abuser. Many pedophiles simply live difficult, asexual lives but Bill would have them kill themselves instead because whether or not they harm anyone the ick factor they give him lands them on his "trash" list.

No, you don't know Bill at all apparently. He is not using it in the heat of the moment as an insult, he is arguing in the abstract that these nameless people should kill themselves and doggedly holding on to the arguments.

It is not any kind of accident, just ask him (I haven't seen him change his mind, so surely he will still argue for this). He still believes that whole swaths of paraphilia should be solved by killing themselves. It is not a temporary bit of hyperbole, it is his worldview, and it has all the nuance of a comic book for 14-year olds.

If you can get your mind around forever then maybe you should be on a philately forum. Or a forum that discusses the universe and atoms.....you know, psychics.

This is a good question, vcry good indeed. There is a character in The Book. In one place the Metaphor makes him the Serpent, another a King Understanding dark speeches, casting the truth to the ground. Another he is called Lucifer, yet another The Spirit of Truth. In another a Lamb that has been slain, yet again as the Beast 666. Presented in two ways, as good and as evil, by appearance, yet by definition, his message is always the same, promoting judgment among mankind.
Why does he do it? By what scales does he measure the value of his life?

I don't collect stamps, my bill collectors do.

Well, even a stopped clock is right twice a day (and Bill's no stopped clock).

But if you think Bill isn't living in a comic book world of heroes and villains you just don't know him.

Well said. The problem is not in personal differences but someone who genuinely thinks they are better than others. 1 in 5 people have some degree of mental illness. Ask yourself who would they be on this forum. Remember, 1 in 5.

OCCOM ILL...youre out of here.

Sisters ! The whole wo-man word is an insult ! It makes us only an adjunct to a man ! From now on we shall be know as wo-woman !

Ah. That would also explain his fascination with Ayn Rand.

Hmmm. Is Ionus trolling this thread?

OK Joe...you were warned...youre out of here ! Hey ! Thats a baseball saying ! I made a funny ! Hhahahahaahahahaahahahahaahahahahaahahahaahahahaahahaahahaahahahahaahahahaahahahaahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahah.....

Youre out of here ! Untoward opinion against THE CENSOR (all tremble).