H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2010 09:17 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

O'Reilly did, by not using extremist when he said Muslims attacked us.


Are you sure he didn't say 'All terrorists are Muslim'?
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2010 10:09 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Are you sure he didn't say 'All terrorists are Muslim'?


It wouldn't have mattered for it would have been another of the enormous lies that pass as regular everyday banter through the US media and among the citizenry at large.

Just counting the CIA, the USA would have the largest number of terrorists; counting its proxies, the number of US and US sponsored terrorists jumps dramatically.

Factor in all the troops that have taken part in these terrorist actions against the people of Iraq and Afghanistan and the numbers are ginormous.

Remember h2oman, the CIA warned that events like 9/11 would have to happen simply because of US dirty tricks, US torture, US rape and murder in countries around the world.

As Dagmaraka says, and aren't you and most Americans pointed examples, "History is only insulting to those who live off of myths".
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2010 12:55 pm
@JTT,
Actually, the statement would have been correct.... today - ALL terrorists are Muslim.
failures art
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2010 01:02 pm
@H2O MAN,
or...

Michigan Militias with radical Christian ideas hell bent on killing cops in order to start an uprising against the government.

Where did cjhsa go?...

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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2010 01:05 pm
@failures art,
Aren't you off topic, FA?
failures art
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2010 01:24 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
the CIA warned that events like 9/11 would have to happen simply because of US dirty tricks, US torture, US rape and murder in countries around the world.


So inevitability means justification then? What does "have to happen" mean? Are you saying that the USA deserved to be attacked? Let's be clear here. I'd like to examine your propaganda.

I don't think you understand the concept of "blowback" as well as you think you do.

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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2010 01:43 pm
@failures art,
Quote:
Are you saying that the USA deserved to be attacked?


No, I'm saying that the USA deserves to be held accountable for the numerous war crimes that it has engaged in over the last hundred years.

That's the way civilized countries like Cuba, Nicaragua and Vietnam, for example, handles things. They don't launch immoral and illegal invasions based on a pack of lies.

I'm saying that officials of the USA should be held to the same measure that German and Japanese officials were held for their actions during and before WWII.

I have been saying what you have been all too silent about, and it's becoming apparent that you have been actively seeking to divert attention from.

I have been saying what Law Professor Marjorie Cohn has said,

Quote:

Obama's Af-Pak War Is Illegal
Monday 21 December 2009
by: Marjorie Cohn, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

...

Although the US invasion of Afghanistan was as illegal as the invasion of Iraq, many Americans saw it as a justifiable response to the attacks of September 11, 2001. The cover of Time magazine called it "The Right War." Obama campaigned on ending the Iraq war but escalating the war in Afghanistan. But a majority of Americans now oppose that war as well.

The UN Charter provides that all member states must settle their international disputes by peaceful means, and no nation can use military force except in self-defense or when authorized by the Security Council. After the 9/11 attacks, the council passed two resolutions, neither of which authorized the use of military force in Afghanistan.

"Operation Enduring Freedom" was not legitimate self-defense under the charter because the 9/11 attacks were crimes against humanity, not "armed attacks" by another country. Afghanistan did not attack the United States. In fact, 15 of the 19 hijackers hailed from Saudi Arabia. Furthermore, there was not an imminent threat of an armed attack on the United States after 9/11, or President Bush would not have waited three weeks before initiating his October 2001 bombing campaign. The necessity for self-defense must be "instant, overwhelming, leaving no choice of means, and no moment for deliberation." This classic principle of self-defense in international law has been affirmed by the Nuremberg Tribunal and the UN General Assembly.

Bush's justification for attacking Afghanistan was that it was harboring Osama bin Laden and training terrorists, even though bin Laden did not claim responsibility for the 9/11 attacks until 2004. After Bush demanded that the Taliban turn over bin Laden to the United States, the Taliban's ambassador to Pakistan said his government wanted proof that bin Laden was involved in the 9/11 attacks before deciding whether to extradite him, according to The Washington Post. That proof was not forthcoming; the Tali

The Taliban did not deliver bin Laden, and Bush began bombing Afghanistan.

Bush's rationale for attacking Afghanistan was spurious. Iranians could have made the same argument to attack the United States after they overthrew the vicious Shah Reza Pahlavi in 1979 and the US gave him safe haven. If the new Iranian government had demanded that the US turn over the Shah and we refused, would it have been lawful for Iran to invade the United States? Of course not.

http://www.truth-out.org/1221094



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failures art
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2010 02:16 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Aren't you off topic, FA?

Good point. Here's a thread where we can talk about it: Blowback

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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2010 01:29 pm
That Joy character sure is a cunning runt.
talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2010 04:14 pm
@H2O MAN,
What a drip!
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2010 04:29 pm
@talk72000,
I'm sure Joy is just that.
talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2010 04:34 pm
@H2O MAN,
She is joyful that you are a drip.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2010 08:32 pm
@talk72000,
You and Joy are all dried up.
talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2010 12:41 pm
@H2O MAN,
You are so wet. You are not holding up the dyke. Remove the finger from your ass. Mr. Green
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2010 02:33 pm
@talk72000,
talkie sounds like one of them ignorant radical Muslim sympathisin
Obama democrats suffering from a rectal cranial inversion.
talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2010 03:45 pm
@H2O MAN,
You are wet as usual.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2010 03:46 pm
You molest collies.
talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2010 03:48 pm
@H2O MAN,
Finger stickee.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2010 04:04 pm
Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar support murderous Muslims and their Ground Zero monument.
talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2010 05:19 pm
@H2O MAN,
They didn't like O'Reilly intolerance.
 

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