Man Bashing, and what Men should do about it

@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

hawkeye will be happy to know that i'm helping to support his campaign to promote women to take over

just mailed in my county election ballot

choose one mayoral candidate, one woman running, done

choose five councillors, five women running, done

choose one school board trustee, one woman running, done

wait a minute is hawk supporting the take over of the world by women, or have i got this wrong, oh dear lord what have i done

oh well, do a good job ladies, leaves the men more time for xbox and porn

One of the first candidates in whose campaign I ever participated on a daily basis, was a chick;
Rosemary McGrath, a conservative Republican in Greenwich Village, running for the NYS Assembly
in the 1950s or early 1960s.
That was before the Conservative Party existed in NY.
I was its first volunteer worker to fight against liberalism.

David

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@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

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I like the chick in what appears to be nipple clamps...thanks.
Lambchop wrote:

Why am I not surprised?

I don 't like hardware on chicks; unnatural; not even gold nor silver.
David

OSD was very disappointed in his blind date

I don 't look 5% as good as that.

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That 's a brilliant post, djjd! very, very clever !

David

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@hawkeye10,

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women telling men that this is not valued, that they can make their own money, that they dont need a man for anything is the monkey wrench that got thrown into the he-man program. What you cant get through your head is that it is important for men to feel like women not only want us, but need us.

Well, so the fact that women are now in the work force in large numbers, and, therefore, have more economic dependence, you see as a monkey wrench thrown into the "he-man program". Obviously, that monkey wrench is staying there. So, what happens to the "he-man" program?

In what ways do you want women to need and want men?

What can men do to ensure that women will need and want them? How can they become more desirable?

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@firefly,

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What can men do to ensure that women will need and want them? How can they become more desirable?

In my experience the answer is that men need to find their balls. Women respect and admire a man who is dangerous, who makes demands, who says what he means and who then does what he says regardless of feminine whining, women want a man who can take care of his business without a lot of sniveling and whining, and a man who can at the proper moment take command of the bedroom. This same man needs to be able to be soft, needs to be able to understand his woman, and needs to be able to communicate.

being a pussywipped toad will work sometimes for awhile, but it is not a sound long range strategy.

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@hawkeye10,

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Having the superior force of will as well as willingness to endure deprivation is what lead both women and men to conclude that men are the stronger gender. The male supremacy myth was not made up out of whole cloth.

The male supremacy myth was also made up by men...and then they kept women in a subordinate position so it couldn't be challenged.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3568/3806144491_52d6863040.jpg

And your main complaint now is that women are asserting their will. And, if they no longer buy your "male supremacy myth", can you accept being on equal footing with them, or will you just continuing whining about being knocked off your pedestal?

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@firefly,

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And your main complaint now is that women are asserting their will. And, if they no longer buy your "male supremacy myth", can you accept being on equal footing with them, or will you just continuing whining about being knocked off your pedestal?

Sorry the last thing you wish for Firefly is equal treatment for women and woman being treated as adults with adults responsibility as well as rights.

You wish men to have the burden of protecting women from themselves.

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@BillRM,

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You wish men to have the burden of protecting women from themselves.

No, she is not willing to allow men either the rights or the means to protect women from themselves. She is rather saying that women are in charge of themselves, unless something goes wrong, in which case a man must found to blame

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@hawkeye10,

Why don't you just answer the question I did ask you. What I said was...

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And your main complaint now is that women are asserting their will. And, if they no longer buy your "male supremacy myth", can you accept being on equal footing with them, or will you just continuing whining about being knocked off your pedestal?

Can you tolerate an equal situation with women, or are you still going to try to keep your "male supremacy myth" alive, despite the fact that a monkey wrench got thrown into your "he-man program"?

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@firefly,

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Can you tolerate an equal situation with women, or are you still going to try to keep your "male supremacy myth" alive, despite the fact that a monkey wrench got thrown into your "he-man program"?

My woman and are a team, she takes the lead on some things, I take the lead on somethings. There are things that I decide after consulting with her, and things that she decides after consulting with me. there are things that we work out together and dont move forward until we get a deal. The most difficult negotiation took 4 years.

This is the traditional way to run a union between man and woman, I think it works very well, and I have no desire to change it. We are equal, we are not equal always in all things.

You refuse to get in into you head that my objections to the gender relationship problem in this society does not reflect a gender relationship problem in my personal life. You have assumed that it does, and you continue to assume that it does after me multiple times telling you that you are wrong.

We did once have a problem, for about ten years, back when I was trying to be a new age man after several years of being a feminist sympathizer back when I had a bad opinion of masculinity and was using my Zen training to get in touch with my feminine side. But I eventually wised up. I found my balls again and everything is now fine.

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@hawkeye10,

I wasn't asking you about your personal life. But I"m glad things are fine between you and your wife.

I was asking whether you advocated keeping the "male supremacy myth" alive in the general culture, given that you acknowledge that a monkey wrench got thrown into it. Do societal gender relationships now require that the "male supremacy myth" be ditched in favor of a model based on male/female equality?

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@firefly,

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I was asking whether you advocated keeping the "male supremacy myth" alive in the general culture, given that you acknowledge that a monkey wrench got thrown into it. Do societal gender relationships now require that the "male supremacy myth" be ditched in favor of a model based on male/female equality?

I was born in 1962, male supremacy has not been practiced generally in my lifetime so there is no "male supremacy myth" to keep alive. It was certainly around in the late 1800's, I dont know when it died out but my guess is that it was around 1920. I dont think that we have seen any of the feminine invalidism or purity tests that are representative of the male supremacy era since ww1. We have certainly seen male dominance of the family life since that time, but it was always with the understanding that the female is equal, but in a role that allows the male to decide certain things....it was a consensual power exchange arrangement rather than a male supremacy scheme.

I cant think of the last person I knew who had a problem with equality of the sexes...my grandpa maybe??

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@firefly,

What are the myths you are referring to Firefly?

Men and women are not the same even if we do overlap a very great deal.

Superior or not is a value judgment however but we are not the same.

Here is some Myths.........

Men are on the whole are stronger?

Men on the whole are more aggressive?

Men are on the whole are better in some fields of science and mathematic?

And on and on we go with the so call myths and we could do the same for a similar list for women.

Both lists however would be shorter then a list of things we have in common.

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@hawkeye10,

Then why do you even bring up things like "Male Supremacy Myths" or talk about females trying to make "power grabs" if gender power isn't an issue for you in society?

You try to manufacture problems, then run out of hot air to keep them going. You've actually delineated no problems, offered no solutions, and not said much to address the topic of Man Bashing you started other than to say, "Men should stop taking **** from women".

So, they should stop taking it. Well, that was really an enlightening insight, Hawkeye. Don't strain your brain too much. Laughing

It's just been your same old, same old, mumbo jumbo without saying much of anything...

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@firefly,

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en why do you even bring up things like "Male Supremacy Myths" or talk about females trying to make "power grabs" if gender power isn't an issue for you in society?

I dont recall bringing up "male supremacy myths". I believe that gender power is a big issue, but I dont think that males have thought that females are inferior for a very long time. We are fighting about who does what and who gets to decide, but we are fighting as equals.

I do think that young males are being taught that what girls want is more important than what they want, that young males are having problems dealing with being assumed to be potential abusers who need to be kept under close guard, and they do have a problem with girls increasingly indicating that they expect to be in charge of the relationship and that boys are only welcome if they follow the rules. The assumption of equality does seem to be in danger.

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The sex survey recently out indicates something that I have believed to be true...that being that the young studs are banging the young chicks, and that the nice emasculated men are stuck using their hand.

The four areas of interest for 20-24 YO are

1) vaginal in the last year: Men 63% women 80% and

2) men giving anal 11% women receiving anal 23%

3) women who have given oral to men 74%; men who have received oral 63%

4) 70% of women have received oral but only 55% of men have given oral to a woman

Both of these numbers together indicate that a select group of men are getting to play with a lot of women, and are getting to do interesting things to them. We cant be sure of the power dynamic because this was not studied, but my guess is that the guys who know how to get women hot and bothered ( and I promise that a lot of the time this is NOT by being nice and deferential towards women) are getting a lot of action, and the women have zero interest is spreading the wealth to the losers. There is no such thing as socialism when it comes to the sex market place, it is alpha dogs win the babes, Beta dogs jack off and play video games.

This is much more pronounced in this age group than in any other. 37% of men in this age group have not humped in the last year.....this is an amazing and alarming number. One has to be concerned about where all of that hormonal erotic energy is flowing, or if it rather is getting bottled up and is going to blow.

http://www.nationalsexstudy.indiana.edu/graph.html

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

Both of these numbers together indicate that a select group of men are getting to play with a lot of women, and are getting to do interesting things to them.

I lol'd in real life.

That analysis just doesn't follow from the numbers you presented.

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@DrewDad,

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That analysis just doesn't follow from the numbers you presented.

sure it does...If 80% of women are having sex with men you would expect that the number of men having sex with women would be around 80% based upon straight chance. But no, the pool of active women is much larger in this age group than is the pool of active men. For some reason women are choosing to have sex with men who are having sex with other women over the men who are not getting any at all. This can not be disputed. Why they are doing this the study does not answer, but my theory fits the facts, and it also fits with arguments that I have made about the disturbance in gender relationship. I fully expect that what we are looking at is women are in control of relationships in general, that they want and expect that they will have a high quality man as a partner, and they they would rather share that high quality man with another woman than pick a lessor man. These lessor men would be the lost ball-less wonders that I have been talking about......the men who are in trouble.

They are in trouble, and because they are the women reject them, and then they have even more troubles. They are like the Japanese Herbivore men, totally useless to women and thus rejected. In our case I postulate that what we have are young men who have bought into the malarkey that the feminists peddle, and thus who dont know how to treat women, they misunderstand what women want thus can not get women to be attracted to them.

as morally disgusting as this theory is, It does fit the facts as I know them.

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me thinks you obsess too much about others sex lives, who cares, are you getting enough, if so, good for you, if not, fix that problem

i couldn't give a **** if anybody else in the world but me is satisfied with their sex life

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@djjd62,

So djjd62 you have no family or young people now growing up in your family who welfare and happiness you care about?

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