Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

But I do feel sorry for her William. I just refuse to let her drag others down to her level with her misrepresentations.

Name three current prominant leaders of that alleged "terrorist organization"--and cite at least one or two of their recent publications. Or, are you like Hawkeye, you can't name them, no one else has seen them, but you "just know" they are out there...lurking..plotting...waiting to take control of the government.

I think we have a third paranoid in our midst...

Firefly I would lay my money on Ionue..........

At what stage does a terrorist organisation gain respectability ? Is the IRA, the PLO and Libby Lobby to be forgiven ? Are you saying that terrorism works and we should support it ? Perhaps Al Quada are really lovely people just like the Libby Lobby .....

Do you know why you use pictures a lot ? You are trying to win emotions over to your side. Are you worried you dont have the balls for a proper argument ?

What a jerk you are.

You claim that "feminists" are a "terrorist organization" and, just like Hawkeye, you can't name the prominent leaders of this alleged movement that is trying to seize control of the government.

You need a bigger tin foil hat.

Because you, and Hawkeye, and BillRM are objects of ridicule--three stooges--and one picture is worth a thousand words.

You have ignored everything I said and pretend to be responding.....are you hoping people are as stupid and emotional as you are ?

You claim that feminism is not a terrorist organisation and yet you ignored my question as to exactly when did they cease being a terrorist organisation and became a legitimate political movement ? Since they started throwing a leg over a polli instead of acid in his face ? Or since they started begging for unreasonable levels of protection ?

But you did counter reason with 8 sneers. Is that a new record for you ?

Your ability to appeal to the mindless masses with cut and paste photos is truly remarkable. Dont know if it will work here though.

You only know that because someone told you. In stead of sidestepping the real issues, which are why you are posting rape stories and what you hope to achieve, you paste photos that prove you are right (??).

Appealing to emotions rather than facts...no wonder you like the emotions of rape.....the facts dont appeal to you at all, do they ?

No, you are wrong. The subject of rape is discussed quite openly all the time. Of course, most normal, rational people, do not view rape as "power in sexuality"--they see it as a heinous criminal assault. But, as you've made quite clear, you find rape laws a threat to your need for "sexual power".

Let me repeat what I said before...

Rape is a criminal act, as defined in the statutes of all 50 states. Those sexual assault laws provide a common frame of reference when discussing the crime of rape and ensure that we are all discussing the same action. Without that specific common definition, provided in a state statute, the discussion becomes incoherent because it no longer has a common focus. And that has certainly been true of your overly nebulous ramblings that demonstrate your lack of familiarity with the specific state laws, and your confusion about what they actually contain.

You confuse rape shield laws, which are part of the rules of evidence in criminal trials, with the actual criminal sexual assault laws of a state. You refer to "levels of consent" in sexual assault laws, when no such levels exist, and when, in fact, the definition of rape in the 3rd degree in your state, Washington, hinges on a lack of consent. And you cannot state a valid reason you disagree with the actual sexual assault laws of your state--despite 376 pages of carping about them--that actually refers to the specific wording of those laws.

So, what you have effectively demonstrated is your ignorance and inability to deal with reality. The reality of those sexual assault laws resides in their exact wording--that is what defines the crime of a rape in a particular state. That is the crime we have been discussing--not what you think rape is, or should be, it is the actual, real life, current crime of rape. What you would be arrested and tried for, if you were charged with a crime of rape.

You attempt to varnish over your ignorance with your continued diatribes about bogeymen "feminists", in such an obsessive manner, that it truly suggests you have psychiatric problems. You have even repeatedly referred to me as "a feminist", despite my having said I do not consider myself a member of such a group, I am not conversant with their literature, and have posted no feminist position opinions in this thread. Again, that shows your inability to function within the bounds of reality. Your obsessions dictate that reality must bend to accommodate them, and, hence, your thinking reflects the distortions found in those with significant psychiatric problems. The only thing you have convinced me of in this thread is that you are paranoid, feel quite inadequate as a man, are overly concerned with power issues, need increasingly deviant sexual outlets to obtain sexual satisfaction, and try to blame all the sources of your misery on an ill-defined scapegoat you call "feminists" or "rape feminists" who you accuse of all sorts of covert actions which you claim are unbeknown to the rest of the public. You are a classic paranoid with somewhat diffuse delusions.

You lament that your views are rejected at A2k because they are "unpopular". That is a rather simplistic conclusion on your part, probably because you fail to appreciate how your posts sound to more rational readers. You have repeatedly been labeled as "sick" by many here at A2k, and not without reason. That you are unable to consider such feedback, and instead respond with renewed grandiosity, shows just how out of touch you are with what people are actually responding to in your statements. Your typical response to such comments is generally a rather juvenile insult--you attack the "masculinity" of male posters, accuse the females of being "man-hating" or "lesbians" and, of course, "feminists", and you call people "liars" when their remarks indicate no attempts at deceit. You display your anger, but absolutely no insight into yourself or how you impress others. They are all wrong, but you know you're right. You're the lone voice of "truth" crying into the wilderness. Sure, Hawkeye, sure. See yourself as some sort of martyr, rather than a nut, or a crackpot, or a narcissist concerned only with his own self interest and self gratification, or an inadequate male who is lost in a world where women have gained increasing power.

You have used a thread about rape to pump up your fragile sense of your own "masculity" by displays of sexism, misogyny, and attacks of all sorts on women and women's issues, along with your half-baked pseudo-sociological analyses of alleged gender power struggles and your view of rape as being "part of the sexual dance" or an aspect of "intimate relationships". You are a rape denier and a rape apologist, and you have told us you would ignore the rape laws if they got in the way of your own satisfaction. That you compared such an unabashedly selfish violation of criminal law to the selfless acts of civil disobedience by the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., shows just how distorted your thinking is.

So, by all means, Hawkeye, continue to post in this thread. Continue to display your ignorance and your pathology. Continue to exchange sexist and misogynist comments with your dimwitted sidekick, BillRM. Continue to ramble about irrelevancies, and your various "theories", and your obsession with "feminists".
You need this sort of platform, in the safe anonymous darkness of cyber-space, because, without it, I suspect you have very little going for you...

Most normal, rational people do not view buyers remorse as a good enough reason to lock someone up for a very long time....and I want to be very clear on this....EVEN....EVEN...if it is only a man.

The rape laws as the feminist movement is shaping them is a threat to all heterosexual men and a very large percent of the women who care about the men in their lives.

The new laws placed men futures in the hands of the goddess of chance that they do not run into the wrong woman during their courtship years.

Yes steps can and likely will be taken to offer some protection such as the building of databases on women who had cry assault or rape on past boyfriends/lovers in spite of the rape shield laws.

Cite me one actual case where a man was imprisoned because of "buyer's remorse"--where no actual rape took place. You are the one making the claim that this even occurs, so, big shot, produce the evidence.

Do you buy the tin foil by the gross?

Poor poor lady back to cute pictures once more.

By the very nature of a man being found guilty by the word of a woman alone the only why you could prove it is a buyer remorse case is if the woman had a case of conscious after the conviction and I had indeed posted a few such cases on this thread along with dozens of cases of buyer regrets that did not end up with a conviction but did result in the man going though hell.

Here is a revenge case not a regret case but three young men was convicted on the word of one woman/girl.


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Rape girl 'confession' caught on camera
Monday, 08 March 2010 08:49 RC News
New evidence suggests a girl’s rape testimony, which sent three teenage boys to prison, may have been fabricated

A 16-year-old girl, whose allegation that she was raped at Fredericia train station resulted in the conviction of three teenage boys, unknowingly confessed on a hidden camera that she lied about the incident, according to public broadcaster DR.

The video was taped by one of the boy’s families and is presently being used as evidence in a Western High Court case to have the original convictions overturned. The girl is now being charged by police for fabricating the story.

In the video, the brother of one of the three boys approaches the girl and chats with her on a sofa. The video shows the girl flirting with the boy while he tries to draw the true explanation out of her of what actually happened at the station.

At one point while being filmed, the girl says she was not held down by two of the boys while the other raped her, as she testified in court. She added that the sex she had with the one boy was consensual.

The girl also said in the video that she made the accusations because she was angry at one of the boys. She added that it was unfortunate the two others were sentenced in the case, but said she couldn’t find any other way to get back at the one boy.

During the filming she said she would not recant her testimony for fear of being punished or ending up in a youth offender institution.
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Shame on you Firefly....
Fancy using the photo of three men that brought so much pleasure in the lives of those that watched them..... to designate those three arseholes who would be happy to have all women who dare to stand up to their masculinity buried up to there necks and stoned to death because of their pitiful
Concept of who and what they are --- arsholes

Here they did not give a reason why she placed an innocent man into prison.



http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/12/10/2009-12-10_william_mccaffrey_.html#ixzz0ZLI1XKUK


Judge drops rape charges against William McCaffrey after accuser admits to perjury
BY Oren Yaniv
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Originally Published:Thursday, December 10th 2009, 5:26 PM
Updated: Thursday, December 10th 2009, 5:26 PM

Hermann for NewsWilliam McCaffrey in Manhattan Supreme Court where Judge Richard Carruthers ordered his previous conviction of raping Biurny Peguero Gonzalez overturned after Gonzalez admitted she fabricated the story. Related NewsThis case was a crimeWoman who falsely accused man of rape, sending him to prison for 4 years, gets 1-3 years jailMom 'fesses up to lying in rape caseEditorial: Justice delayedA deeply apologetic judge officially dropped all charges Thursday against an innocent man he sent to prison for rape.

"I want to convey to you my personal regret in having participated, though unknowingly, in the injustice committed to you," Manhattan Criminal Court Judge Richard Carruthers told William McCaffrey, calling the wrong conviction "a catastrophe both for [McCaffrey] and for the criminal justice system."

McCaffrey's accuser, Biurny Peguero, 27, took back her damning rape allegations in August and confessed to perjury.

"Given the startling turn of events, I now recant what I said about you when I sentenced you for 20 years in prison for a rape we now know you did not commit," said the judge, who had called the alleged assault "horrific" and "disgusting" when he sent McCaffrey upstate in October 2006.

"It's terrific," said McCaffrey, 32, who has been out on bail since September. "I'm just glad it's over. I've been waiting for this for a long time."

The Bronx contractor's route to freedom started last year, when new DNA evidence showed that bite marks on his so-called victim came from a woman.

Earlier this year, Peguero confessed her lies to a priest and later recanted her testimony in court.

McCaffrey, whom she had met on the night of the alleged attack in September 2005, did not rape her at knifepoint as she claimed. Her injuries stemmed from a drunken brawl with a female friend.

Carruthers said he won't pass judgment on Peguero, whose perjury case is pending, but asserted the rape "did not occur."

"Mr. McCaffrey, I wish you well," the judge said before declaring the conviction vacated and the indictment dismissed.

Some in the gallery burst into applause as McCaffrey hugged lawyer Glenn Garber.

"Finally, justice was done," said Garber, founder of the Exoneration Initiative, a nonprofit focused on wrongful convictions in cases that lack DNA evidence.

McCaffrey, a father of two who owns a construction company, enjoyed a nice meal with family members after leaving court.

"He is very excited about his freedom and good fortune," Garber said.

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I stipulated an "open and frank" discussion on "power in sexuality" and what you are talking about is the swearing of allegiance to the feminists approved message on rape...the only words that can be said in polite company without resulting in getting jumped, so I am not wrong because we are not talking about the same thing. There is a big problem with this for you I am sure, in that when all you ever hear is people saying what you want them to say it is easy to get deluded into believing that people believe what you want them to believe. Shutting down communication has a way of fostering misunderstanding of the truth of where people stand. Make no mistake, people often make up their own minds in spite of repeated taxpayer supported brow-beatings of the feminist position, and in quiet spaces while with people they trust folks do say what they really believe. You would not like a lot of what people believe, as you keep complaining when you post studies that show that way too many people believe the wrong thing and are in desperate need to your reeducation efforts according to you. So what is it going to be for us hard cases....something along the Gulag model??

Quite a lot of people are behind the power curve on what is happening on the front of the criminalization of sexuality. Personal experience, either their own or someone that they know and care about, will in time work to educate them. This is of course in comparison to what the feminists and the rape industry call "education" on rape, which is really blatant propaganda....most of it built on mis-information , emotional blackmail and word games.