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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 06:47 pm
@BillW,
BillW....Feminists collaborator .......alert
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 06:50 pm
@BillW,
Quote:
Definition of PERVERT
transitive verb
1a : to cause to turn aside or away from what is good or true or morally right : corrupt
I argue that the feminist world view is divorced from reality, and thus is the perverted assertion. The good is seeing things how they really are, trying to rewire human nature by force is the work of evilness.
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 06:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
Here we go again..

http://feminocracy.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/feminist.jpg?w=388&h=288
Blah, blah, blah. Same old whine. The feminists..the feminists...the feminists...
Poor Hawkeye feels castrated by THE FEMINISTS. He thinks they're plotting to curb his BDSM lifestyle. And where would his life be without Bondage, Dominance, Sadism, and Masochism? The sky is falling, the sky is falling...

Why doesn't Chicken Little zip it...
http://www.pandasport.com/forum/uploads/1054973328bdsm_mask_jl_5237__09275.jpg



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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 07:00 pm
http://deepaknegi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Feminism1.jpg
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 07:06 pm
@firefly,
Can you document the assertion that ANYONE has EVER thought that women are not people??


No, of course not....but I learned long ago to not expect any honesty out of you in this thread......
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BillW
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 07:09 pm
@BillRM,
Nahhh, I just know am asshole when I see one.........who let you out of the sewer?
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 07:10 pm
@firefly,
FEMINISM from Firefly postings mean that women are children needing and entitle to special protections with little or no responsibility for their own actions.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 07:11 pm
@BillW,
How do you know anything with your head up Firefly ass?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 07:12 pm
@BillW,
It wasn't me. He is spending New Year's Eve in da iggy bin.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 07:16 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
FEMINISM from Firefly postings mean that women are children needing and entitle to special protections with little or no responsibility for their own actions.
in a word.... BITCH.....Feminism originated out of a noble calling but is rapidly degenerating into another name for a group of radical bitch/dyke's who are self congratulatory, self promoting, and who desire to expand their number.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 07:58 pm
@hawkeye10,
Before anyone takes offense at calling feminsts Bitches I point out that not only is it a true statement but some of them call themselves Bitches...as we see with Bitch Magazine http://bitchmagazine.org/

Quote:
Our history
Bitch: Feminist Response to Pop Culture was launched in 1996 by Lisa Jervis, Benjamin Shaykin, and Andi Zeisler. High-school pals and recent college graduates Lisa and Andi were both pop culture obsessives with a particular jones for magazines—both were interns at the legendary Sassy magazine in the early 1990s—as well as feminists constantly on the lookout for sharp, fun, nonacademic analyses of the sexism rampant in movies, television, advertising, and more. As frustrated readers as well as aspiring writers, they looked around at a landscape of self-published zines and, in classic let’s-put-on-a-show fashion, decided that if they wanted to see some smart analysis of feminist pop culture, they could start by writing it themselves. Bitch was born, and, 12 years later, its goals—to point out the insidious, everyday sexism of popular culture, propose alternatives, and celebrate pro-woman, pro-feminism pop products—are still as crucial as they were in 1996.



helpfully on the current first page of the website is the following

Quote:
Up next is Fox News correspondent Megyn Kelly who not only thinks it's ridiculous that the Society of Professional Journalists' Diversity Committee is vying to curb use of the term "illegal aliens" (a campaign Colorlines has been promoting for months now) for undocumented immigrants, but she compared the language to people calling "rapists" "non-consensual sex partners". I tried to follow her logic and got all the brainfreeze with none of the ice cream.

Here's the clip of Jehmu Greene, former president of the Women's Media Center (speaking about how the language journalists use impact collective attitudes), Brad Blakeman (who says "more power to" the journalists who want to change their language...."But we do have a problem of illegal aliens being in this country") and Kelly:

Kelly wraps up the segment bemoaning the fact that "we did a segment earlier in the year on how little people find the term 'midget' offensive--you can't say that anymore!" WHEN WILL THIS LANGUAGE POLICING END? What bigoted words will I be denied next? "You're left as a journalist saying, 'What can I say?'" Oh I don't know, journalist, maybe do your job and write and think creatively without trampling on people's lived experiences.

And bringing up the rear in our douchebag triumvirate, is writer Katrin Bennhold, who wrote a New York Times Opinion piece "Is it Rape? Depends on who's asking", covering, you guessed it, the Julian Assange rape charges. Which is just great, because the internet shouldn't be the only place for people to question whether Julian Assange having sex with an unconscious woman qualifies as rape, we should have veritable, mostly reliable news sources do it as well! Here's what a panel of experts said about the Assange accusations when Bennhold asked them. No wait, they weren't experts, they were her "girlfriends — all in their 30s, and most in steady, heterosexual relationships":

“It cheapens rape,” one said.

“Why get the police into the bedroom over something like this? Grow up,” said another.

“He sounds really sleazy,” said a third, “but not exactly like a rapist.”

Ah, yes--it "cheapens rape"--that activity chock-full of moral fiber! And what, exactly, does a rapist sound like? Bennhold seems to want to scratch the surface of rape being too complex for most court systems to handle. But when statements like "In this world, as long as the woman is passive, she is consenting" don't really come off tongue-in-cheek, it doesn't work. Nor does it help when she continues to entertain rape apologist theories like "So in future we need a written contract every time before we close our bedroom doors?", a comment from one of her "exasperated male journalist colleague[s]." Truly, rape was so less exhausting when it was a scary man on a dark alley! Now it's utterly tiring to consider that rape can--and does--happen inside of those closed bedroom doors, spaces we thought were safe, with people we didn't think we needed a contract with. Thankfully, Lindsay Beyerstein has responded to the article's misgivings with an op-ed piece herself: "Shoving A Dick Into An Unconscious Person Is Rape. Any Questions?"

Given that it should be well known by now that feminists are at the vanguard of the language control posse this should surprise no one...
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 08:32 pm
@Arella Mae,
You know Arella Mae, neither of the two half wits seem to realize that sexually assaulting women is just not acceptable any more.

One of the twits claims that men now have a "target on their backs" because of the current rape laws. But women have had a target on their backs, as rape targets, for how many thousands of years? Isn't it time to put a stop to that? And, to listen to this same twit, very intoxicated women not only have a very BIG TARGET on their backs, they should just ignore it when they are sexually assaulted because being drunk makes you fair game for rape. Taking advantage of a woman like that is a time honored male tradition, isn't it? A man who would pass up such an opportunity isn't a "real man", is he? It's not "real rape" if she's very drunk because she asked for it--she got herself in that condition--so, rape away.

And the other twit, the one who views gender relations from a BDSM perspective, claims "THE FEMINISTS" are trying to change human nature. As though rapes and sexual assaults are just a part of "human nature" that women should just accept and live with. Well, women got a little sick of that, and worked to help pass rape laws that didn't require a female to be beaten black and blue to prove she resisted unwanted sex. Just saying, "No" indicated what she meant. And, "No" does not mean, "Yes" or "Maybe"--"No means no". In an era of casual sex, the rape laws had to reflect reality--women were enjoying their sexuality, but that didn't mean they shouldn't be able to draw a line about what they did and did not want in a sexual encounter, and they needed that backed up by the power of law. Some men, like this particular twit, resent the fact that women have that power. And he worries mightily how they will use that power next. That seems to be a BIG problem for him.

The current rape laws reflect changes in the status of women, women just aren't doormats any more--even for their husbands. And the laws require that women be treated differently now. Consent is required for sexual activity. Most men understand that, and accept it with no problem. And laws help to change attitudes, by changing behaviors. That, this twit doesn't understand at all. Laws desegregating schools led to changed attitudes about race because they forced changes in behavior. Even laws curbing smoking in public places, restaurants, and workplaces, contributed to getting people to stop smoking and changing attitudes toward smoking. And current laws to deter sexual assaults will contribute to decreasing sexual assaults, and will help to change attitudes, such as victim blaming, which contribute to sexual assaults by helping rapists get off the hook and avoid accountability.

The most laughable thing that both twits say is that sexual assault/rape laws are anti-sex. Really? Laughing Well, requiring "consent" is not "anti-sex"--it simply means both partners must be in agreement that the sexual encounter is desired.
The man can't just do whatever he feels like doing with a woman, whenever he feels like doing it, unless she's freely agreeing and knows what she's doing. Wow! Is that a big deal for the two twits! They don't seem to like that one bit. And they call women things like "whores" and "loose women" if these females then say they were raped. It's okay for a man to screw around, but if a woman does it, she's a tramp. Funny, that attitude seems very "anti-sex" to me. But women who feel free to flirt, and drink, and have casual sex, also have the right to say, "NO" and to have that accepted, and to expect that they won't be raped just because they are too drunk to resist. Men that can't accept that, are the ones who are "anti-sex". You encourage sexuality by making it safer--for both parties--and, being able to control what you do and do not want to occur, makes it safer and contributes to trust. Consent is not a trivial matter at all, it's part of the enjoyable aspect of sex--it means you are doing what you really want to be doing. And that's hardly "anti-sex".

The twits just don't get it, Arella Mae. And that really doesn't matter. The laws are in place. Those that violate them risk entanglements with the legal system. And nothing the twits say here is going to change that. Men are responsible for their actions--including rapes.



firefly
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 08:38 pm
@BillRM,
SCHMUCK ALERT Laughing
http://www.blogcdn.com/xbox.joystiq.com/media/2006/09/shmuck.jpg

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 08:44 pm
@firefly,
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The twits just don't get it, Arella Mae. And that really doesn't matter. The laws are in place. Those that violate them risk entanglements with the legal system. And nothing the twits say here is going to change that.
laws have been changed and can be changed again, and everyone involved in the process, to include juries, can be influenced towards sanity. I dont feel that letting my voice be heard is a lost cause. I damn well do have the right to make my feelings known as well. What you seem to not understand is that I have seen enough people in real life who substantially agree with my position to not take seriously your claim that I am all alone, or the momentum is on your side.

Your position is that your team has the legal guns and my side does not so you get to be in charge. BULLSHIT. This is a democracy, I fully expect to gather a majority and then put a stake through the heart of radical feminism, to include tilling under these insane sex laws that the feminists have written/are writing/hope to write. I dont even think this job is going to be hard.
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 08:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
"My team" is the overwhelming majority of people in our society. Feminism has nothing to do with it. You are arguing with your strawman again. Perhaps you could get some meds to help control your delusions. Yoo hoo--no one here has expressed radical feminist views. It's all in your mind.

MOST PEOPLE--male and female--want the current laws.
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I fully expect to gather a majority and then put a stake through the heart of radical feminism

Ye gads. What a drama queen you are. Stakes through the heart. How phallic. Laughing Hawkeye conquers feminism--how BDSM. Laughing

Lotsa luck. Laughing
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 09:04 pm
@firefly,
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seem to realize that sexually assaulting women is just not acceptable any more.


Or treating women as equals who should and can look after their own best interests and are free to consent or not consent to sex even after drinking as must as any man can.

Who rights to consent to sex can not be removed from them by people who view them as simple children instead of adults.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 09:09 pm
@firefly,
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My team" is the overwhelming majority of people in our society.
considering that I have said that my view is currently the minority view then that would make your view by my own admission the majority view...today. I am working towards to better tomorrow.

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MOST PEOPLE--male and female--want the current laws.
very few people have any understanding of the current laws, and even less understand where the rape feminists intend to take the law, so this fact does not disturb or discourage me. I have heard many feminists warn that they must go slow now, and they are close to ginning up strong resistance to their agenda, which I think is exactly right. I also dont think that feminists will be able to help themselves when they think that they have an opening to push harder successfully in Washington or in the Courts. I am fully expecting a step too far, and my side is ready to take full advantage. We are no longer directed by guilt, and we are no longer susceptible to the guilt trips your side lays down.

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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 09:10 pm
@hawkeye10,
HAWKEYE PREPARING HIS NEXT RANT AGAINST THE RAPE FEMINISTS
http://www.meh.ro/original/2010_04/meh.ro4029.png

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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 09:12 pm
@firefly,
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"My team" is the overwhelming majority of people in our society


You know better that is the reason you feel the need to lied to the people as how common real rape happen to be and how you try to hide from the people how you had redefine both rape and domestic violence to mean things that in the history of the human race it have never had.

And the overwhelming majority of the people both men and women care as must for their sons as they care for their daughters.
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2010 09:22 pm
@BillRM,
You're so dumb you could flunk a urine test.
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