@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;47181 wrote:many people target practice just because they like to target practice, and sawing off the end of a shotgun will not aid you in aim!
Actually, with a shotgun being used for personal protection, it does. A shorter barrel, especially when coupled with a shortened or collapsing stock aids in swing time and control during successive firings, and adds stability to sight picture when pumping (ejecting spent shells and chambering new ones).
I've been using long guns my entire life, and you're right, shorter barrels DO hinder your aim in the realm of accuracy. HOWEVER, your fire is more precise given shorter barrels on shoulder-fired weapons, and in a CQC situation, I have no doubt about accuracy, what I want is precisio
Quote:you don't need good aim to shoot someone in-front of you!
Just to make sure, I have a 19" barrel that fires a spread of .32 caliber pellets each time I pull the trigger instead of a pistol that only fires 1 9mm round. If I come out shooting with my shotgun, empty it, and the guy is still standing.....I deserve to die anyway.
Quote:yes but shooting deer isn't illegal.
A Remington 700 is a deer rifle, you know who else uses it? The Marine Corps Scout Sniper School, the FBI HRT, NUMEROUS local SWAT agencies, etc. I put a better scope, add an all-weather stock (the one being stored at my place has a really nice wooden one on it), and wa-bam, I have one of the finest sniper systems in the world. GOOD hunters (ie, no blinds or stands) could easily turn their attention to people, and while they're not SNIPERS, they can certainly pose a threat to your average soldier or LEO.
Quote:I understand where you are comming from but for the last time i'm ONLY talking about sawed-off shotguns (weapons that are illegally altered to aid in commiting a crime)
An SBS is designed to kill people suddenly and at close-range.....so is a pistol. In fact pistols are the DEADLIEST firearms in this country by all measures, yet they remain legal while SBS's are not, why? Politicians like Rep. McCarthy of New York watch a movie or read a hit-piece on the NRA and think they know something about weapons, and so seek to outlaw weapons that AREN'T DANGEROUS to the general public. Most people who own "assault weapons" and the like are responsible, albeit destructive (be honest guys, blowing away hundreds of dollars worth of ammo is FUN) people who see a genuine need for owning weapons that have parity with the military. Your average street thug has NO CLUE how his gun works, and so generally can't modify it at all. Gun laws only punish the good guys, plain and simple.
Quote:Weapons thats sole purpose is to commit crime should be illegal. Can we at least agree on this much?
No weapon's "sole purpose" is to commit crime. I use my shotgun to defend my home and destroy things at the range, but I could just as easily use it to rob a store or kill an innocent person. PEOPLE dictate an object's uses, not the object. Using your logic, we should ban all cars that can exceed 80mph, because capabilities above that can ONLY be used to break the law, when in actuality they might be necessary to say, avoid an accident, or get to a hospital. Some people will abuse their freedoms, but until they do, let them do as they please. Not only is it the most ethical and practical thing to do, the Constitution says it's the law.
By the way:
The Ruger P90 is a badass pistol, ignore the online reviews. I've easily put 400 rounds through it now without so much as a feed-jam (a few misfires, but blame that on shitty ammo). Cheap, dependable, and ugly as sin.
