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Soldiers Misled

 
 
92b16vx
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2007 06:25 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
I didn't think you would let out why you won't serve in the war you support. I've already answered your feeble attempt at ad hominen.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2007 07:15 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
Why did you serve in a war you don't support? You get duped? Were you one of the sheeple? Did you kill to steal oil?
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2007 07:59 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
Hell, I've even answered that about twenty times already. Enough AH, get on with your reasons, or stop making yourself look worse.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 11:13 am
@FedUpAmerican,
What lap are we on?
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 11:22 am
@92b16vx,
Let me quote...me...

92b16vx;35238 wrote:
or stop making yourself look worse.
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aaronssongs
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 11:26 am
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;35238 wrote:
Hell, I've even answered that about twenty times already. Enough AH, get on with your reasons, or stop making yourself look worse.


92,
He can't help himself...and no one is running to his defense, either.
He demands proof, but offers no explanations for his positions or views...there is no winning with him...it's all about trying to keep up (and failing at that) and getting attention via insults. If he has an opinion, he can't articulate it. Or hasn't, as of today.
Freeman15
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 12:26 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;34968 wrote:
At home, your boss know he pays you for chatting on the net? I bet he don't?
So again you admit that going to war entitles you to something? You are above a regular citizen?


He's saying that if you support the war, pick up a rifle and do your part instead of being a mouthpiece. I hate chicken-hawks.

Further, opponents of the war don't have the logical obligation to actually take part, since WE DON'T WANT TO BE THERE. If you really believe that this war is such a grand measure of American might, why don't you run down to your local Marine recruiter and sign the dotted line?
Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 02:14 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;35408 wrote:
92,
He can't help himself...and no one is running to his defense, either.
He demands proof, but offers no explanations for his positions or views...there is no winning with him...it's all about trying to keep up (and failing at that) and getting attention via insults. If he has an opinion, he can't articulate it. Or hasn't, as of today.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 02:21 pm
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;35444 wrote:
He's saying that if you support the war, pick up a rifle and do your part instead of being a mouthpiece. I hate chicken-hawks.

Further, opponents of the war don't have the logical obligation to actually take part, since WE DON'T WANT TO BE THERE. If you really believe that this war is such a grand measure of American might, why don't you run down to your local Marine recruiter and sign the dotted line?

Who is he to say. I do my part, i support the war effort, or is that not part of it? Tell that to the millions that supported WW2? Or Vietnam or any other war for that matter. You hate chickenhawk? That must mean you were in the service? Who paid you for said service?
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Further, opponents of the war don't have the logical obligation to actually take part,
Guess what, as soon as your country takes action, you are taking part. They are acting on your behalf.
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since WE DON'T WANT TO BE THERE.
Nobody asked you, the decision was made for you.
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If you really believe that this war is such a grand measure of American might, why don't you run down to your local Marine recruiter and sign the dotted line?
I'll ask you, who are you to ask? Do you have prior service and if so how does that entitle you to pass judgement over me?
92b16vx
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 02:31 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;35470 wrote:
Guess what, as soon as your country takes action, you are taking part.

They are acting on your behalf.

Nobody asked you, the decision was made for you.



Contradict yourself much?
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Freeman15
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 02:37 pm
@92b16vx,
Drnaline:

I served in the United States Navy as an officer candidate until last year when I was medically disenrolled for exhibiting asthmatic reactions to specific allergens. I joined the Navy to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, not to fight for commercial interests abroad or to "free" the oppressed, but while my tenor may have been brief, at least I was WILLING to go.

I can call you a chicken-hawk because you support sending others to fight and die without doing so yourself. Please tell me; if this war is so righteous and necessary, why haven't you gone over to help us win it? Until you are willing to pick up a rifle and stand up for your convictions, your words are hollow. You're just as big a hypocrite as Sean Hannity, a man who preaches adoption over abortion, but has no adoptive children. Put your money where your mouth is.

You are right, war was chosen. It was chosen illegally and under perjured testimony from our executive branch, all of whom, including the president are deserving of impeachment (conviction....let the congress decide). I am puzzled that you can possibly support a war that is bankrupting our nation and creating new enemies overseas.
lancesorbenson
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 02:37 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;35219 wrote:
You got the balls to call us chickenhawks but not the balls to tell us what give's you the right?


You're a chickenhawk. Satisfied.

I'm just curious...are you a native English-speaker? Because you don't really seem to have a grasp of the language.
Freeman15
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 02:39 pm
@lancesorbenson,
lancesorbenson;35483 wrote:
You're a chickenhawk. Satisfied.

I'm just curious...are you a native English-speaker? Because you don't really seem to have a grasp of the language.


Let's try to keep it civil. I'm new, but I've learned as a political scientist that bashing somebody, whether or not the bash is valid (and it is), only makes them more hostile.
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FedUpAmerican
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 02:44 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
You can't keep it civil with the likes of "SOME" (you know who you are) but ignoring them works just fine.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 02:48 pm
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;35482 wrote:
Drnaline:

I served in the United States Navy as an officer candidate until last year when I was medically disenrolled for exhibiting asthmatic reactions to specific allergens. I joined the Navy to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, not to fight for commercial interests abroad or to "free" the oppressed, but while my tenor may have been brief, at least I was WILLING to go.

I can call you a chicken-hawk because you support sending others to fight and die without doing so yourself. Please tell me; if this war is so righteous and necessary, why haven't you gone over to help us win it? Until you are willing to pick up a rifle and stand up for your convictions, your words are hollow. You're just as big a hypocrite as Sean Hannity, a man who preaches adoption over abortion, but has no adoptive children. Put your money where your mouth is.

You are right, war was chosen. It was chosen illegally and under perjured testimony from our executive branch, all of whom, including the president are deserving of impeachment (conviction....let the congress decide). I am puzzled that you can possibly support a war that is bankrupting our nation and creating new enemies overseas.
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I served in the United States Navy as an officer candidate until last year when I was medically disenrolled for exhibiting asthmatic reactions to specific allergens. I joined the Navy to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, not to fight for commercial interests abroad or to "free" the oppressed, but while my tenor may have been brief, at least I was WILLING to go.
You assume i was not willing, who are you to judge?
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I can call you a chicken-hawk because you support sending others to fight and die without doing so yourself. Please tell me; if this war is so righteous and necessary, why haven't you gone over to help us win it? Until you are willing to pick up a rifle and stand up for your convictions, your words are hollow. You're just as big a hypocrite as Sean Hannity, a man who preaches adoption over abortion, but has no adoptive children. Put your money where your mouth is.
So when you signed on the dotted line, did you know what you were signing? Or were you duped too?
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You are right, war was chosen. It was chosen illegally and under perjured testimony from our executive branch, all of whom, including the president are deserving of impeachment (conviction....let the congress decide). I am puzzled that you can possibly support a war that is bankrupting our nation and creating new enemies overseas
All you have to do is prove intent, i'll be waiting?
Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 02:50 pm
@lancesorbenson,
lancesorbenson;35483 wrote:
You're a chickenhawk. Satisfied.

I'm just curious...are you a native English-speaker? Because you don't really seem to have a grasp of the language.
My family came to this country in 1578, you? When english wasn't the native language.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 02:51 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
FedUpAmerican;35488 wrote:
You can't keep it civil with the likes of "SOME" (you know who you are) but ignoring them works just fine.
Yeah, when you can ignore them, LOL. Some can't
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Freeman15
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 02:55 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline.

I knew there was a war on, and I knew I'd be sent to the Gulf when I got my commission, but it was worth it to me because I believed we would realize the folly of this war, and my support for the Constitution runs deeper than my disdain for imperialism.

You are, by definition a chicken-hawk. You support war, but refuse to go yourself. If you were willing, you would have already gone. The Army has already started offering 2-year enlistments because they're low on personnel, so they need the bodies. Your pro-war stance would be a joke if it didn't involve sending our soldiers overseas to die for nothing.

I don't have to prove intent, that's for Congress. An impeachment is a formal indictment of a US official, and enough circumstantial evidence exists to warrant impeachment. I BELIEVE them to be guilty, but I KNOW them to be worthy of indictment.
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FedUpAmerican
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 02:58 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
LOL!!!

Sure does explain things.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2007 03:00 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
It's a good thing you just happened to be allergic huh?
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You support war, but refuse to go yourself.
Again you assume.
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If you were willing, you would have already gone.
How do you know i wasn't allergic, LOL.
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The Army has already started offering 2-year enlistments because they're low on personnel, so they need the bodies.
They didn't need this one.
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Your pro-war stance would be a joke if it didn't involve sending our soldiers overseas to die for nothing.
As an American citizen it is my right, Does you status seek you to believe you have something other?
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