Right to life groups mad at the YMCA

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Ok lets send home all the parents a letter and who wants thier kids to go to the planned parenthood clinic check on box and who wants their kids to be exposed to the religious right telling teens not to have sex check the other box

School board upset over clinic visit - Yahoo! News

MANCHESTER, N.H. - The city school board ordered an investigation into an after-school program run by the YMCA in which some middle school students were taken to visit a Planned Parenthood clinic.

New Hampshire Right to Life, an abortion opponent, is now asking for equal time with the seventh and eighth grade students, as well.

The visit was part of the YMCA's STAY program, for students considered at risk of dropping out of school, abusing drugs or getting into trouble with the law. The trip, a week ago, was part of a tour of several social service agencies in the city, to show the students where they could go for support and recreation during the summer.

The school board voted Tuesday to investigate how the decision to visit Planned Parenthood was made and determine whether anyone should be disciplined.

The Planned Parenthood educator who met with the students, Anne Johnson, said she never mentioned abortion, but Darlene Pawlik, New Hampshire Right to Life, said the subject was obvious.

"Everybody knows Planned Parenthood performs abortions," she said. "There were protesters outside with signs saying 'Babies killed here.' There's no mistaking that (the students) have already been exposed to the issue."

Schools Superintendent Michael Ludwell said he would need to see a formal, written request from New Hampshire Right to Life before deciding whether a representative would meet with the students.

Ludwell said he hoped to finish an internal investigation by the end of the week and meet with the YMCA president to draw up new program guidelines, but overall he defended the STAY program.

"We have had a very long and, prior to this incident, a very positive relationship," he said.

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@STNGfan,

there's no reason children (highschool) shouldn't be exposed to Abortion, just so long as it's done without an agenda

would pro life rather kids be hidden from reality?

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@STNGfan,

yeah I do not see the problem with it either. It is an option. Not the greatest option to choose if you get pregnant but it is an option non the less. They said they did not expose the kids to abortion anyways but sex education and about getting birth control. I think the religious right is hiding behind abortion because they don't want the kids exposed to birth control so they can have sex. "rolls eyes". Once again other people trying to tell my teens how to live their sex lives.

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@STNGfan,

Both sides need to be given a voice on this issue. I have no problem with the program as long as it's the parents choice to say yes or no.

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@STNGfan,

****, I wish they would've taken me on a trip to Planned Parenthood as kid.

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@STNGfan,

Planned parenthood sounds like an oxymoron to me.
Stngfan- what will you tell your daughter when she comes over to visit and tells you she just killed your first grandchild?

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;21756 wrote:

Planned parenthood sounds like an oxymoron to me.
Stngfan- what will you tell your daughter when she comes over to visit and tells you she just killed your first grandchild?

First of all I would not be fear mongering here about how sex is evil and all that crap so she would already tell me when she is sexually active. One I see her with a solid boyfriend we take a trip to planned parenthood and put her on a pill. It is idiot parents like you who tell their kids not to have sex and not protect them and then they get an abortion to hide it from you. You would never find out about it.

My daughter will be on the pill age 14-16 depending on when she chooses to be sexually active. I have absolutly nothing against teen sex. I had sex myself at 16 and never regretted it for a second.

I would not let my daughter have sex in my home because that is just too wierd for me to have my daughter getting some boy off in my house but I am not going to punish her or make her feel bad if she has sex somewhere else.

If she is on the pill she has no need to ever have an abortion.

If she accidently got pregnant on the pill or whatever she would be open enough with me because I would never make her feel ashamed about these things with crap about it being sinful and all that garbabge. She will know that it is natural to feel this way at this age.

We would have a very long talk and have all options open including abortion. I would highly discourage abortion but if that was her choice. I would take her to the Planned parenthood myself and if I could hold her hand during the process.

I will not condone bringing a child into this world that is unwanted. I do not care if it is killing a life or not.

I grew up as an unwanted child. I was abused, neglected and molested. I grew up dysfunction and on the system. I later discovered that I had Post Trumatic Stress Disorder and was on Disability for a very long time.
I will put no child through that and if that means I have to put it down to spare it the life I grew up as. Than so be it.

I would condone my daughter killing a fetus.
It is not my grandchild until it is born. A child is a born being. A fetus is not a child or a baby. It is DNA...with no brain waves or consciousness that makes it a full human yet.

again..My children will be well protected by sexual education and being on the pill and this is unlikely to happen.

Unlike idiots who teach abstanince only and then their kids get pregant and have abortions behind your back.
HAHA..
good parenting.

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@STNGfan,

Is this even really the issue?

I don't think the girl should be allowed to kill her unborn child at all, I don't care if it involves parental consent or not.

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@STNGfan,

sure I tell you what some guy gets my girl pregnant and takes off and refuses to take responsibility for the unborn child. I will call you and you can adopt this unwanted child.
How about this we increase taxes 5 percent to cover the homes for unwanted children.
Sure I will be happy to make abortion illegal if we garentee that all the unborn children are taken care of and get a college education.

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@STNGfan,

STNGfan;21839 wrote:

sure I tell you what some guy gets my girl pregnant and takes off and refuses to take responsibility for the unborn child. I will call you and you can adopt this unwanted child.
How about this we increase taxes 5 percent to cover the homes for unwanted children.
Sure I will be happy to make abortion illegal if we garentee that all the unborn children are taken care of and get a college education.

Why?

The American people are not responsible for your girl's baby born from irresponsibility.

She is, and so is the father. Spend those resources on finding him and forcing him to pay for his child.

The baby certainly isn't responsible, and shouldn't be killed for it.

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@STNGfan,

It is not a baby it is a fetus. It is alive but it not have human consciouness. It no different than putting down a dog. No I am not going to force my child to raise a baby by herself because of an accident. I will kill the fetus if others will not take care of it.
Don't want to care about your community then we have the right to kill the fetus.

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@STNGfan,

also when the laws force the father to actually take care of the child via watching the child and forcing the father to raise the child then I will consider going pro life.. until then the woman gets stuck with the child when it is born 24/7 while the man is only forced to pay child support. Absolutely unacceptable.
There is not equal punishment for men and women on this issue. When it is fair and the father is forced to raise the child equal time to the mother than I will consider pro life.

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@STNGfan,

Please point out where anything in the Constitution says anything about a right to kill. The baby has the right to life.

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@STNGfan,

it is not a "baby" it is a fetus and does not have citizenship or qualify for human rights until it is born. Please state where in the consitution that we cannot kill a "life form" a fetus is just a life form. We put dogs down every day because we do not want to take care of them or feed them. We kill cows by the millions for food we do not even need. We can live fine with out meat yet we continue to take their life for our own selfish need for the taste. we no longer need meat to survive yet we kill for our own pleasure.
A fetus is no different.
It has no rights and is not human until it developes human awareness. Which is why abortion is illegal after the 3rd trimester when it developes organized brainwaves.
Your statement is not valid.

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@STNGfan,

The only thing that makes us different than animals is the human consciousness. A fetus lacks human consciousness.

When you can prove a 3 week fetus has a human awareness I will go pro life. but brain scans already prove that organized brainwaves that make human awareness possible does not develope until the 3rd trimester.

Your a hypocrite to cry for "life" and the value of life if you eat meat.

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@STNGfan,

STNGfan;21843 wrote:

It is not a baby it is a fetus.

WROOOOOOOONG! A fetus is a baby.

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It is alive but it not have human consciouness.

Who cares?

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It no different than putting down a dog.

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No I am not going to force my child to raise a baby by herself because of an accident.

Oh, did he trip into her? And then out of her? And then into her again? And then out of her again? And then into her again? And then out of her again? And then into her again? And then out of her again?

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I will kill the fetus if others will not take care of it.

lol

And here I thought you thought it was the girl's choice. Looks to be like you have a boner for killing babies.

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Don't want to care about your community then we have the right to kill the fetus.

No you don't. No one has the right to kill another human, regardless of my thoughts on the community.

And yes, it's a human. It's not a cow, it's not a dog, it's not a cat, it's not a bird. It's a human.

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@STNGfan,

STNGfan;21844 wrote:

also when the laws force the father to actually take care of the child via watching the child and forcing the father to raise the child then I will consider going pro life.. until then the woman gets stuck with the child when it is born 24/7 while the man is only forced to pay child support. Absolutely unacceptable.
There is not equal punishment for men and women on this issue. When it is fair and the father is forced to raise the child equal time to the mother than I will consider pro life.

You would force the woman to live with that jackass?

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@STNGfan,

STNGfan;21848 wrote:

The only thing that makes us different than animals is the human consciousness.

Except for various people with mental disorders, right?

Who are you to judge when a fetus is conscious? That's a slippery slope. Let's not try to define when a human deserves life.

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@STNGfan,

STNGfan;21847 wrote:

it is not a "baby" it is a fetus and does not have citizenship or qualify for human rights until it is born. Please state where in the consitution that we cannot kill a "life form" a fetus is just a life form. We put dogs down every day because we do not want to take care of them or feed them. We kill cows by the millions for food we do not even need. We can live fine with out meat yet we continue to take their life for our own selfish need for the taste. we no longer need meat to survive yet we kill for our own pleasure.
A fetus is no different.
It has no rights and is not human until it developes human awareness. Which is why abortion is illegal after the 3rd trimester when it developes organized brainwaves.
Your statement is not valid.

Fetuses in the US usually originated here, no?

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@One Man Clan,

One Man Clan;21849 wrote:

WROOOOOOOONG! A fetus is a baby.

Who cares?

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Oh, did he trip into her? And then out of her? And then into her again? And then out of her again? And then into her again? And then out of her again? And then into her again? And then out of her again?

lol

And here I thought you thought it was the girl's choice. Looks to be like you have a boner for killing babies.

No you don't. No one has the right to kill another human, regardless of my thoughts on the community.

And yes, it's a human. It's not a cow, it's not a dog, it's not a cat, it's not a bird. It's a human.

The only difference between a dog, cat, or bird and a human is that human have obtain awarness what you call a soul. This is not obtianed with out the brain waves. A human is an animal it is classified as a mammal. To think that a human is above other animals is arrogant. We only are smarter than them and can predict what will happen in the future with logic. Every other aspect we are an animal. Until a fetus gains human awareness it is just a mammal and DNA in a shell.

Yes I do. The law says I have the right to kill a fetus regardless of what your stupid bible says. Human laws in this country are above Gods laws and your superstition.

The sex was not an accident but my daughter would be on the pill because we will have gone and gotten the pill for her for her sexual activity. IF she gets pregnant on the pill and the boy refuses to wear a condomn on her side it is an accidental pregnancy. So either the boy must take full responsibility financially and physically for the fetus when it is born or the fetus will be termintated.

I have every right to do it by the U.S laws... and if that changed because of you religious nut jobs. I would do it illegally.

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