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I Understand
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 08:09 pm
@sam2007,
Its not a conspiracy theory if its true.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 09:33 pm
@I Understand,
I Understand;19136 wrote:
Its not a conspiracy theory if its true.


Right. But it isn't.
:dunno:
92b16vx
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 09:41 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;19152 wrote:
Right. But it isn't.
:dunno:


So, do you believe Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone gunman?
Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 10:27 pm
@sam2007,
I do. Haven't seen too much to say to the contrary?
92b16vx
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 11:53 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;19170 wrote:
I do. Haven't seen too much to say to the contrary?


You would, but then again, you've never let facts get in the way of your opinions.

Just for fun, have you EVER fired a gun? Have you ever seen a bullet that hit something like bone, or metal? This is a picture of the bullet recovered from John Connallys thigh...

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/images/GoD4-5.gif

Here's the path that bullet supposedly took...

http://www.orwelltoday.com/jfkbulletmagic.jpg

Through bone and flesh, and nary a scratch.

Here's what a bullet looks like after impact...

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/8/8f/180px-Halvmantlad_.jpg

This alone is interesting, as all the other bullets recovered were nothing but fragments. But if you were interested in facts, you could easily research it for yourself.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 07:24 am
@sam2007,
Interesting yes, does it prove he was not alone, no. Remarkable paths do a conspiracy make.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 07:29 am
@sam2007,
The only proof that he was alone is that the Warren Commission said so. All other actual facts point to the contrary, go along, get along.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 07:48 am
@sam2007,
"point to the contrary" does not make it fact.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 07:57 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;19192 wrote:
"point to the contrary" does not make it fact.


Apparently, nothing that is factual matters to you, therefore any discussion on a subject you do not agree on is worthless. You seem to have all of your opinions given to you. I find it funny that everytime facts are presented, you completely change the subject, and just ignore it.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 08:07 am
@sam2007,
I'm using your own words. How am i changing the subject, i'm quoting you directly? That and i'd like an answer ever now and then. IN a court of law they would ask if there was a shadow of a doubt, would you consider there to be?
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 08:07 am
@sam2007,
Nope.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 08:15 am
@sam2007,
Every body else would.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 08:43 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;19203 wrote:
Every body else would.


Actually no, not everybody else would.
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sam2007
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 10:59 am
@sam2007,
Hiiiii
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 11:48 am
@sam2007,
sam2007;19226 wrote:
92b16vx - the bullet-path diagram does not show the timing problems - watch JFK: Case for Conspiracy, which shows frame-by-frame video analysis to point out these timing problems, which make this bullet truly the "magic bullet", even Q couldn't invent. To give you an idea: Bullet had to have made a 2-second stop in the air before striking Governor's wrist.

There are many reasons why JFK was assasinated. He had denied Israelis the nukes; didn't turn Bay of Pigs into an all out war; resisted Vietnam; sought to end Cold War, abolish the Fed (a consortium of the largest privately owned banks in the US), and restrain CIA under JCS. Not only did he not go along with Operation Northwoods, he fired the man who came up with the idea of waging terror on American soil and against American interests to blame it on Cuba to justify a war.



Not to mention, there is a tree in the way of the shot he supposedly made.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 12:23 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;19159 wrote:
So, do you believe Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone gunman?


Absolutely. I have stood exactly where he fired from, but just one floor up (the actual shooter's perch is protected by a glass shield). There are Xs on the pavement on Elm Street that show the points of impact. It's super-close-range -- something like 88 feet. I could've done that myself all day long. In fact, I would've been more accurate, and I'm just an old Army dog, as opposed to a fabled, epic hero [SIZE="4"]MARINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/SIZE]...............barf.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 12:26 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;19232 wrote:
Not to mention, there is a tree in the way of the shot he supposedly made.


The tree didn't obstruct his field of fire. Granted, if he had missed, and if the driver has sped up, the tree would have blocked it immediately afterward. But, if you go the museum in Dallas, and go upstairs, to the seventh floor, you can stand in the same corner, and look down into the kill zone. It's a clear shot. Trust me. I shoot a lot. It was a piece of cake for anyone with even average marskmanship proficiency.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 12:31 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;19244 wrote:
Absolutely. I have stood exactly where he fired from, but just one floor up (the actual shooter's perch is protected by a glass shield).


So...you didn't stand exactly where he shot from.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 02:01 pm
@sam2007,
Haha, what other evidence to the contrary, exactly? There's a new 1,000 page + book coming out about it from a guy who did 10 or 20 years of research and says your conspiracies are fake, I suggest you buy it.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 02:42 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;19254 wrote:
Haha, what other evidence to the contrary, exactly? There's a new 1,000 page + book coming out about it from a guy who did 10 or 20 years of research and says your conspiracies are fake, I suggest you buy it.


PLENTY of evidence to teh contrary, I suggest you review it. I might, and I'd read it, and maybe still not believe it. I've seen plenty of "evidence" both ways already, and still believe it wasn't him, or at least, not alone, I seriously doubt a book is going to change my mind.
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