When we went to war with japan, were they not a sovereign nation, what about Italy and Germany? Yup all of them were, and we never declared war on Germany, Hmm?
After we kicked the **** out of them, we occupied them for years. Built bases which we still operate from. Why would Iraq be different?
I'm asking you, if YOU support the troops? I want your responce to the same question. I've got a long list, i got a feeling your list you can sum up with one word, Nothing?
I am in a fight, with the patriotic desentors! That would be you.
On a second note, do you know how the concept of a Republic works? Do you consider yourself a patriot?
Who do you support them?Again, i am asking you, once you answer me, i'll gladly tell you, but not before.
Call it what you will, IMO you are yellow. I only needed five posts to come with this, if you don't like it, don't read.
You defeatist should get your tail out from between your legs, your balls may even hang down for a change.
We are the richest country in the world, who says we can't afford it. We've got the money and the man power.
I'm sure there is a little search button some where on your computor screen. Try it. I'm not your teacher or your wetnurse. Try watching the History channel they have had some really good documentarys lately.
Um, Iraq is a completely different country, with a completely different cultural and religious heritage.
I learned in about 4th grade that Japan actually attacked the United States, and that's why we went to war against them and the rest of the Axis powers.
Um, Iraq is a completely different country, with a completely different cultural and religious heritage.
Since you assume I do not support the troops--at least in a fashion you would find satisfactory--why is it so hard to provide just a few points off of your "long list." Aren't you proud of your "support"?
I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you mean "dissenters" which comes from the Latin word for "disagree." I do disagree with you and your ilk, but how does arguing with me and others on a message board "support the troops"?
Sure, I'm a patriot. Why the hell not? I can't tell--are you for or against the concept of a republic? Do you know what the word actually means (And no looking it up!)?
Your focus on the notion of "supporting" someone is really pathological. I support pulling the troops out of an absurd war. I really don't like seeing our soldiers get killed and dismembered for nothing. Call me crazy.
It doesn't bother me to be called "yellar" by some yahoo who demonstrates an astonishingly poor understanding of the English language. I think you are a coward, so there. YOU advocate a war that other people have to fight, but that you yourself aren't fighting. I'd call that supreme cowardice.
You should go fight in the war you love and for the cause you support instead of sitting at your computer, you warrior you. Come on. Sack up and sign on! Be a patriot!!
92 already pretty much covered it. Explaining the idea of foreign-held national debt and a massive federal deficit to you would be painful. I'm thinking pissing razor blades painful.
Finally we get to the bottom of it! You get your information from the Internet(s) and the idiot box. How appropriate!
I learned in about 4th grade that Japan actually attacked the United States, and that's why we went to war against them and the rest of the Axis powers.
Um, Iraq is a completely different country, with a completely different cultural and religious heritage.
Since you assume I do not support the troops--at least in a fashion you would find satisfactory--why is it so hard to provide just a few points off of your "long list." Aren't you proud of your "support"?
I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you mean "dissenters" which comes from the Latin word for "disagree." I do disagree with you and your ilk, but how does arguing with me and others on a message board "support the troops"?
Sure, I'm a patriot.
Your focus on the notion of "supporting" someone is really pathological. I support pulling the troops out of an absurd war. I really don't like seeing our soldiers get killed and dismembered for nothing. Call me crazy.
It doesn't bother me to be called "yellar" by some yahoo who demonstrates an astonishingly poor understanding of the English language. I think you are a coward, so there. YOU advocate a war that other people have to fight, but that you yourself aren't fighting. I'd call that supreme cowardice.
You should go fight in the war you love and for the cause you support instead of sitting at your computer, you warrior you. Come on. Sack up and sign on! Be a patriot!!
Finally we get to the bottom of it! You get your information from the Internet(s) and the idiot box. How appropriate!
Not only that, but this guys seems to think that there is some correlation between stopping a world war, started by a madman and a preemptive invasion on a country that was not presently at war, and did not attack the US....ever. And it wasn't just the US that occupied Germany, it was the U.S. France, Britian, and the Soviet Union. Oh yea, and they created Israel and the United Nations.
Germany was split into two, the Federal Republic of Germany, and the German Democratic Republic, and underwent denazifacation, and the plan was to de-industrialize, as opposed to Iraq, where we are aiding them with billions, and arming them. Oh, and I don't remember Germany being completely surrounded by Islamic countries that support terrorism, hate western ideals, and generally do not like us, not to mention, I believe that most of the world did not oppose what we did in WWII, but you know, I do seem to remember someone saying something about some dissapproval over us going into Iraq. But hey, feel free to point out some of those similarities that make it the same thing we are doing in Iraq now.
Not only that, but this guys seems to think that there is some correlation between stopping a world war, started by a madman and a preemptive invasion on a country that was not presently at war, and did not attack the US....ever. And it wasn't just the US that occupied Germany, it was the U.S. France, Britian, and the Soviet Union. Oh yea, and they created Israel and the United Nations.
Germany was split into two, the Federal Republic of Germany, and the German Democratic Republic, and underwent denazifacation, and the plan was to de-industrialize, as opposed to Iraq, where we are aiding them with billions, and arming them. Oh, and I don't remember Germany being completely surrounded by Islamic countries that support terrorism, hate western ideals, and generally do not like us, not to mention, I believe that most of the world did not oppose what we did in WWII, but you know, I do seem to remember someone saying something about some dissapproval over us going into Iraq. But hey, feel free to point out some of those similarities that make it the same thing we are doing in Iraq now.
Still stuck on false history, preemptive started when Saddam invaded Kuwait. You can't rewrite history. Emo is as emo does.
Almost forgot, lap six is in the books.
Is that the best you have after we completely destroy your "Iraq is like Germany, and I have info to back it up" claim? Like I knew from the get go, you are horrible at this. Seriously, we want to hear how our occupation of Iraq is similar to post WWII Germany occupation.
Is that the best you have after we completely destroy your "Iraq is like Germany, and I have info to back it up" claim?
Like I knew from the get go, you are horrible at this.
Seriously, we want to hear how our occupation of Iraq is similar to post WWII Germany occupation.
i could say so you would understand would be to ask you is you think the US occupied Germany. Then i'd ask are we occupying Iraq? Wouldn't you agree that we occupied both, which would indicate US policy is to occupy? Being so, then is it fair to say that the two are "similar" in that respect? I know you will try and change the subject...
What's the common demoninator, the US. What does being a different country have to do with our foreign policy?
My assumption is you will say you support the troops only in word, i will believe so untill you provide info otherwise. Wanna few points, heres one, my wife works for the National Guard. Proud, i'm damn proud. You proud of your support?
You asssuume what ever you want. They have the war front, i have the home front. They deal with terrorists, i deal with desentors.
My arguement is if favor of troop support, your arguement is in favor of troop withdrawel, not support. IMO
They are not getting killed and dismembered for nothing, ask 92b? At bear minimum they are being killed and dismembered for oil.
Tell me this, do you have enough conviction in your arguement to get into a physical fight over it? If not then indeed you are a coward.
Stand for what you beleive in, you sit down.You yourself said you are a patriot, why don't you sack up and sign on, cowardess?
You stick to something safe like desenting?
And? Where do you get your info, moveon, DU, MSM?
Oh, no subject changing here. Look everyone here is another sample of Dranile logic...a duck has wings and flies, a plane has wings and flies, there fore a plane is a duck, according to the way Draline thinks, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Come on, bash us with your list of a facts that show how Iraq is going to succeed based on Germany.
Oh, no subject changing here.
Look everyone here is another sample of Dranile logic...
a duck has wings and flies, a plane has wings and flies, there fore a plane is a duck, according to the way Draline thinks, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Come on, bash us with your list of a facts that show how Iraq is going to succeed based on Germany.
Ah, really?
Yup, as of this writing there are 3,618 of them, it is good to be King.
Walks like a duck, talks like a duck. But if we are talking quacks, then that is an entirely different story. Untill the big large shiny thing starts flapping is wings as well as your gums is ain't a duck, LOL.
What is the one common demonimator with the comparison, US policy, still have trouble understanding? Do we have bases in Iraq? Will they likely stay when and if we supposedly leave?
Are you of the opinion that Iraq has not succeeded to this point, this aught to be good? And as of your last sentence you have completed lap 7. Don't you get tired of saying the same thing over and over? Broken record is what my dad you to say, time to change the LP.
Well, we had vastly different policies in Japan as opposed to Germany. I know you probably think occupation is occupation is occupation, but history shows we have taken a variety of approaches in different countries.
I really don't care about what you call "support" for the troops. The bottom line is that you think other people should go fight in a war that you won't or can't fight in yourself. Maybe you're unfit for service, I don't know but that sounds right to me. And your wife "working" for the National Guard isn't impressive.
Do you think this makes you somehow courageous? Fighting us DISSENTERS on a message board. What a brave guy!
I was thinking of trying to explain to you that troop support and withdrawal from a pointless war were not mutually exclusive, then I realized there is no way you could even begin to understand.
That's probably of great comfort to the families of the dead and the soldiers who've suffered life-altering injuries.
I am perfectly capable of disagreeing with someone on a political issue and not having it come to blows. I have good friends that disagree with me about a lot of thing and good friends who agree with me about a lot of things. We actually appreciate spirited debate. Having said that, if some yahoo took a swing at me because he didn't like what I was saying, I'd kick the crap out of 'em.
Sign on for what?
Yeah, you're really in danger posting on the Internets.
I get info from a lot of places. I've talked with soldiers, I've studied history, several mainstream and not-so mainstream sources, policy reports, watching Congressional debate on C-SPAN, and on and on.
Well, we had vastly different policies in Japan as opposed to Germany. I know you probably think occupation is occupation is occupation, but history shows we have taken a variety of approaches in different countries.
I really don't care about what you call "support" for the troops.
The bottom line is that you think other people should go fight in a war that you won't or can't fight in yourself.
Maybe you're unfit for service, I don't know but that sounds right to me.
Do you think this makes you somehow courageous?
Fighting us DISSENTERS on a message board. What a brave guy!
That's probably of great comfort to the families of the dead and the soldiers who've suffered life-altering injuries.
I was thinking of trying to explain to you that troop support and withdrawal from a pointless war were not mutually exclusive,
then I realized there is no way you could even begin to understand.
That's probably of great comfort to the families of the dead and the soldiers who've suffered life-altering injuries.
Sign on for what?
Yeah, you're really in danger posting on the Internets.
I am perfectly capable of disagreeing with someone on a political issue and not having it come to blows. I have good friends that disagree with me about a lot of thing and good friends who agree with me about a lot of things. We actually appreciate spirited debate. Having said that, if some yahoo took a swing at me because he didn't like what I was saying, I'd kick the crap out of 'em.
I get info from a lot of places. I've talked with soldiers, I've studied history, several mainstream and not-so mainstream sources, policy reports, watching Congressional debate on C-SPAN, and on and on.
"Vastly different policies" care to give an example?
You and 92b get these confused with facts?
Being fit is none of your business but if you must know i have ventricular heart disease, for me and most of my whole family it is hereditary so no, they wouldn't except me.
Does to me, she runs the Nationl Guard Armory Board, tuition assistance for soldiers, family support(this is where i come in), and is the legislative liaison for the Guard.
Then maybe you can get 92b to answer one of my questions. I'm sure he knows the one i mean?
If your car uses oil, then you don't have to bother answering, if not please explain?
Exclusive to what?Try me, that's the problem with you desenters, you think your so far above it you have to look down to explain **** to us war mongers, well it's about time one of you gets able and starts explaining?Look at 92, he thinks he's a puppet.
He, and I, have already given PLENTY of examples about how it is a vastly different scenerio. You have yet to produce even an idea beyond, "we occupied them, they are the same"
Not confused, you can't join, that's not an opinion, by your own mouth, it is a fact. It's real easy to support something you know you'll never have to do on your own. It's real easy to sit and have others die for your freedom to sit on your butt and post on the internet. Now let's hear all about how but if you could you would, yet again, very easy to say.
I was in Walter Reed for heart surgery one month before I deployed.
So, your wife works for the National Gaurd, but you don't, so that's your support? Support by proximity? LOL. You know, there's plenty of jobs in the DoD that you could take to help support the war you so feverishly support through lipservice.
I have answered it already, are you too stupid to read?
So wait, is it about oil, or not?
Was, was a puppet, not anymore. Nobody forced me to kill, as a matter of fact, I was quite in my enviroment in Fallujah. And if you are going to refer to us a "desenters" at the very least learn how to spell it - dissenter. Of course, you are also a "dissenter", and if you actually knew what it means, you wouldn't try to use it as a derogative since it only means to differ in opinion.
He, and I, have already given PLENTY of examples about how it is a vastly different scenerio. You have yet to produce even an idea beyond, "we occupied them, they are the same"
Not confused, you can't join, that's not an opinion, by your own mouth, it is a fact. It's real easy to support something you know you'll never have to do on your own. It's real easy to sit and have others die for your freedom to sit on your butt and post on the internet. Now let's hear all about how but if you could you would, yet again, very easy to say.
I was in Walter Reed for heart surgery one month before I deployed.
So, your wife works for the National Gaurd, but you don't, so that's your support? Support by proximity? LOL. You know, there's plenty of jobs in the DoD that you could take to help support the war you so feverishly support through lipservice.
So wait, is it about oil, or not?
Was, was a puppet, not anymore.
And if you are going to refer to us a "desenters" at the very least learn how to spell it - dissenter.
Of course, you are also a "dissenter", and if you actually knew what it means, you wouldn't try to use it as a derogative since it only means to differ in opinion.
Desenting is what i do, to your disadvantage it is against you. Would you not agree, who more then i, is in more of a disagreement with you? Or not your idea of the concept I know but it's not you who decides that its me.
Free country, deal with it.
And you still can't spell it right. Anyway, it's no disadvantage to me, you are ineffectual.
Yes, it is. You go ahead and enjoy that. Many have died for it, and you would have more continue to do so under the false flag of "national security", so long I guess as, you don't have to do it yourself. It's sooo funny how you cling to the "better to fight them there than here" slogan, and then go posting articles that indeed show that they are in fact...operating here. lol, oh the irony.
Heah, don't forget, some soldier is keeping you free right now. Do them a little service for a change. If that's not too much to ask.
