@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;37285 wrote:well im a liberal/socialist/leftie whatever RED wants to call me,and i certainly dont want SHARIA LAW,and neither does the british people,do you think because im a liberal/democrat that we will just roll over and let it happen ?
You already are, over half the Mosque in England are run by hardcore Islamic Radicals. England refuses to ban the worst of the lot, and Radical Islam grows daily. England is gutless in dealing with this vermin, women and little girls being forced to live as if it were the seven century because England is more concerned with Race Relations than law enforcement or terrorism. Take the time to read the entire article Scooby, frankly it's time you started to read what's happening in England because Scotland will be next.
Part of the story: The rest here:
Family Security Matters
The Talibanization of Britain
By Adrian Morgan
The Ideology of Deoband
One of the principle doctrines of the Deobandi ideology is that it is a Muslim's duty to wage war (Jihad) upon the enemies of Muslims, wherever they may be. National borders are inconsequential, and a student's loyalty should be to Allah before the country in which he lives. Boys at Haqqania are taught to memorize the Koran in Arabic, prevented from talking or looking at each other. They have no idea what the Arabic words mean.
In parts of NWFP, the "Pakistan Taliban" wield power, and like their Afghan counterparts they are hostile to women who appear "Westernized." On Friday last week, two women were found decapitated near the town of Bannu, close to the Afghan border. They had been kidnapped the day before. A note left with the bodies claimed they were "prostitutes."
Britain's Deobandi Mosques
Last week, London?s Times and the Daily Mail newspapers carried the alarming news that followers of the Deobandi doctrine have taken over almost half of Britain's mosques. In Lancashire in the north of England, out of 75 mosques in Blackburn, Bolton, Preston, Oldham and Burnley, 59 of these are now run by Deobandi clerics. There are 26 Islamic seminaries in Britain ? which produce 80% of homegrown clerics for mosques ? and of these 17 are run by Deobandis. A police report claims that of the 1,350 mosques in Britain, more than 600 of these are now run by Deobandis. In London, about 170 mosques are said to be run by Deobandis.
The man regarded as the most influential of Britain's Deobandis is Riyadh ul Haq. He has written two books, ?The Salah of a Believer in the Quran and Sunnah? and ?The Causes of Disunity.? He was embroiled in a controversy last year, when he was due to talk to 1,000 young Muslims in Canada. Ul Haq was scheduled to address them at the Youth Tarbiyah conference, held in Toronto in early July. He had been invited by the Islamic Foundation of Toronto. He had also been booked to appear at the "Guidance" conference in Montreal in late June, and his itinerary had also included Hamilton, Ontario. His visit was cancelled when Monte Solberg, Canada's immigration minister, decided that Ul Haq's extreme opinions might incite terror and hatred.
The Canadian Jewish Congress mobilized an unusual coalition of Muslims, Hindus, Jews and gay rights campaigners to lead the protests against Ul Haq's visit. He had visited Canada four times previously, including addressing 15,000 people at a "reviving the Islamic Spirit" conference, held at Toronto's Rogers Center in 2005. Tarek Fatah, communications director for the Canadian Muslim Congress, who also hosts a weekly TV Muslim TV show, said at the time: "He's a nasty piece of work. All he will do [is] create doubt in the minds of young people [as to] whether Canada, as a society, is a viable place for Muslims to live in." Ul Haq did address the Tarbiyah conference, but via a video link.
The campaign against Ul Haq's visit to Canada had released extracts of his speeches, indicating a contempt for the West, for Jews, and women. In one speech, he had said: "Of the peoples of the Earth, the ones that hate Muslims the most, the ones who are bitterest of their enmity towards Muslims, the most unrelenting, unforgiving, are the Jews and the mushrikin (Hindus), idolaters in all their forms."
Ul Haq ? full name Abu Yusuf Riyadh Ul Haq ? was born in Gujarat in 1971, and when he was aged three he had migrated with his family to Britain. He entered the Deobandi Darul Uloom Al-Arabbiyah Al-Islamiyyah at Bury, near Bolton in Lancashire, northern England, at the age of 13, and graduated in 1991. This seminary was founded in 1975 by Yusuf Motala, another extremist immigrant from Gujarat in India. Following his graduation, Ul Haq became the imam at Birmingham's Central Mosque. He has since taught at the Madinatul Uloom Al-Islamiyyah in Kidderminster, which was also founded by Yusuf Motala.
In August 2004, Ul Haq was named in a feud which cost the lives of two people. On July 29, 2004, 35-year old Azmat Yaqub (pictured) was shot dead as he worked out at a gym. A fortnight before he was shot several times at the gymnasium in Sparkhill, Mr Yaqub had become a father. Earlier, on March 17, 2003, Mr Yaqub had been hit by gunshot in his shoulder, a victim of a drive-by shooting. Shaham Ali, a companion who had been with him, was shot in the head and died. In the March 2003 killing, six people were arrested, and two were charged with attempted murder. The murder charges were rejected by a court, but one of the two accused was sentenced to two years? jail. 31-year-old Mohammed Sharafit Khan was found guilty of false imprisonment and assault. Two others were found guilty of false imprisonment.
Khan had invited the secretary of Birmingham Central Mosque, Mr. Shockat Lal, to his home. There, the victim was kept captive and repeatedly beaten over a period of one and a half hours. The secretary had had an affair with a woman, and she had fallen pregnant. What incited the anger of young Muslims from the mosque was the fact that the woman was Riyadh ul-Haq's wife. As she was Ul Haq's second wife, the marriage was not legal. Ul Haq had taken offense, and had sacked Shockat Lal. Others who supported the secretary were either expelled from the mosque or ostracized. In March 2003, Ul Haq was arrested from the home of his father, Mohammed Gora Pirbhai, who was an imam at a mosque in Leicester. Ul Haq was questioned about the drive-by murder, but received no charges. The two men who had died were friends of Shockat Lal.
Ul Haq's arguments that women are inferior to men still appear on the website of Birmingham Central Mosque. The Mosque website also has articles extolling the virtues of Deoband and also the extremist missionary group Tablighi Jamaat. The shoe bomber Richard Reid, the American Taliban John Walker Lindh, and members of the ISI have links with this group. Two of the 7/7 bombers attended a Tablighi Jamaat mosque in Dewsbury. Dr. Mohammed Naseem has been the chairman of the mosque for 32 years, and he claims to be a "moderate." Naseem, who was Riyadh Ul Haq's boss for a dozen years, is convinced he is being targeted for MI5 surveillance.
Three weeks after the 7/7 bombings, Naseem tried to claim that the four bombers were innocent, despite DNA evidence. Speaking of 7/7, he called Tony Blair a ?liar? and an ?unreliable witness.? He has publicly questioned the existence of al Qaeda. Naseem runs the Islamic Party of Britain and has said that homosexuals should be executed. Naseem is a major funder to the "Respect" party, whose only MP is George Galloway. After the atrocities of 9/11, Naseem had said that "we are not convinced that those people who perpetrated these actions were actually Muslims."
In January 2006, Britain's most senior civil servant was forced to withdraw an invitation which had been extended to Riyadh Ul Haq. The government had invited him to speak at a function marking the end of Eid ul-Fitr (the end of Ramadan) later that year. The decision was made after people had complained.
Riyadh Ul Haq is opposed to Muslims forming friendships with non-Muslims, whom he refers to dismissively as "kuffaar," claiming that the kuffaar exert an "evil influence." The Times quotes from one of his sermons: "We are in a very dangerous position here. We live amongst the kuffar, we work with them, we associate with them, we mix with them and we begin to pick up their habits."
The Mail quotes him as saying: "The Koran teaches Muslims not to follow in the footsteps of the Jews and the Christians, yet of our own choice we decide to live, act, work, behave, enjoy and play just like the kuffar...Allah has warned us in the Koran, do not befriend the kuffaar. The Jews and Christians will never be content with you until you follow their way."
Ul Haq praises the Taliban, as they share the same ideology, and he is contemptuous of Christians, Jews and Hindus. He openly and frequently ridicules "moderate" Muslims as evidenced in a sermon against "Jewish Fundamentalism." As they are classed as traitors by Ul Haq and his ilk, some moderate Muslims are understandably outraged by this aspect of Deobandi thinking.
Ul Haq also praises armed Jihad. He said in July 2001: "And no one dare utter the 'J' word. The 'J' word has become taboo. The 'J' word can never be mentioned and if someone mentions it, even Muslims look at one another. So much is happening and yet we are expected to remain silent."
On November 11, 2003, Ul Haq's "guru", Yusuf Motala, was detained under the Terrorism Act 2000 at Heathrow airport for seven hours, when he was preparing to fly to Mecca and Medina. His supporters were outraged. One of these, a graduate of the Bury Darul Uloom, said: "More than 75% of the English speaking Imams in the U.K. are graduates from the Darul Ulooms. (An) attack on Shaykh Yusuf Motala is an attack on the entire Muslim community." The graduate claimed that the Deobandi seminaries provided imams for the prison service and for hospitals, and that the Bury Darul Uloom is linked to the University of Preston.
Yusuf Motala was sent to Britain by a leading figure in Tablighi Jamaat, Muhammad Zakaria Kandhlawi (1898 ? 1982). This man was a famous Deobandi scholar whose father had been renowned for his knowledge of the Hadiths (traditions of the prophet). Zakaria himself was a teacher of Hadiths. Zakaria urged Motala to go to Britain to "light the candle of Islam in a land of darkness." Despite being widely praised as a scholar, there are critics of Zakaria who claim that he actually fabricated many stories which he passed off as "authentic" Hadiths. When Motala founded the Darul Uloom in Bury in 1975, he did so with funding from Saudi Arabia.
The Times' reporting on the Deobandi movement in Britain is not before its time. Deobandi ideas have led to the Taliban, and if the governing Labour party is serious in its attempts to defuse radicalism, it should have acted far sooner to quell Deobandi activities. Other sermons from Riyadh ul-Haq, which the Times has reproduced, are: "The Globalized Suffering of the Muslims", "On Our Responsibilities as Muslims"
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