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Can Muslims be good Americans?

 
 
politically-wrong
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jul, 2007 03:43 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;28387 wrote:
Notice that no eastern reply is forthcoming.
Some believe that men also get two wives in their Heaven and I have asked the same question there as to what happens if a wife wants two husbands.
I received no replies to that one either.
Not even from the gentleman I was talking to.
Oh well.

Regards
DL


on second thought i can not wait till tomorrow to find out, so am gonna make a reallyyyyyy wild guess , i think u want to know if a woman wants two husbands what happens, if u r talking about when they r in heaven (when the woman makes that wish) then am gonna reply with a question, two ONLY? , she can have around a zillion trillion husbands, if u r talking about this life, ONLY one at a time, but unlimited through out life, anything else?
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quagmire cv
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2007 09:11 am
@socalgolfguy,
I'm very sick of such misconceptions about Islam and muslims. However, an American, in the first place, is a man who belongs to America regardless of what religion he embraces.
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2007 10:13 am
@socalgolfguy,
Quag - welcome, young man.

Correct me if I am wrong about Islam but it seems to me that Islam recognizes no borders. It only recognizes Islam with no sense of national pride or allegiance. Even the most fundamental Christians would not sell out America.
quagmire cv
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2007 12:12 am
@socalgolfguy,
Hi socalgolfguy, and thanks for the welcome, SM.

First tell me which that religion, divine or not, is demarcated? None. All of religions, divine or not, are global.

Do you know what is the religion of the current United States Permanent Representative to the United Nations, Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad? Go thru his biography and biographies of similar personages of American Mulims and let us know which of Amercian Muslims has had/is/will/would sell out America.

Being a loyal to the country you belong to is a priorty in Islam.
politically-wrong
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2007 01:27 am
@quagmire cv,
quagmire;29621 wrote:
Hi socalgolfguy, and thanks for the welcome, SM.

First tell me which that religion, divine or not, is demarcated? None. All of religions, divine or not, are global.

Do you know what is the religion of the current United States Permanent Representative to the United Nations, Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad? Go thru his biography and biographies of similar personages of American Mulims and let us know which of Amercian Muslims has had/is/will/would sell out America.

Being a loyal to the country you belong to is a priorty in Islam.


Right on bro :thumbup:
Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2007 08:46 am
@socalgolfguy,
Quote:
Being a loyal to the country you belong to is a priorty in Islam.
That's nice to know.
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tvsej
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2007 10:02 am
@socalgolfguy,
have you seen this?

Makes you really think,huh?

I cross ocean,
poor and broke,
Take bus,
see employment folk.

Nice man treat me
good in there,
Say I need to
see welfare.

Welfare say,
"You come no more,
We send cash
right to your door."

Welfare checks,
they make you wealthy,
Medicaid it keep
you healthy!

By and by,
I got plenty money,
Thanks to you,
American dummy.

Write to friends
in motherland,
Tell them 'come
fast as you can.'

They come in turbans
and Ford trucks,
I buy big house
with welfare bucks

They come here,
we live together,
More welfare checks,
it gets better!

Fourteen families,
they moving in,
But neighbor's patience
wearing thin.

Finally, white guy
moves away,
Now I buy his house,
and then I say,

"Find more aliens
for house to rent."
And in the yard
I put a tent.

Send for family
they just trash,
But they, too,
draw the welfare cash!

Everything is
very good,
And soon we
own the neighborhood.

We have hobby
it's called breeding,
Welfare pay
for baby feeding.

Kids need dentist?
Wife need pills?
We get free!
We got no bills!

American crazy!
He pay all year,
To keep welfare
running here.

We think America darn good place!
Too darn good for the white man race.

If they no like us, they can scram,
Got lots of room in Pakistan.



It is interesting that the federal government provides a single
refugee with a monthly allowance of $1, 890.00 and each can also get
an additional $580.00 in social assistance for a total of $2,470.00 ..
This compares very well to a single pensioner who after
contributing to the growth and development of America for 40 to 50 years
can only receive a monthly maximum of $1, 012.00 in old age pension and
Guaranteed Income Supplement.

Maybe our pensioners should apply as refugees!
Lets send this to all Americans, so we can all be ticked off
and maybe we can get the refugees cut back to $1, 012.00 and the
pensioners up to $2,470 00 and enjoy some of the money we were forced
to submit to the government over the last 40 or 50 years.

SEND THIS TO EVERY AMERICAN TAXPAYER YOU KNOW


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socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2007 10:29 am
@quagmire cv,
quagmire;29621 wrote:
Hi socalgolfguy, and thanks for the welcome, SM.

First tell me which that religion, divine or not, is demarcated? None. All of religions, divine or not, are global.

Do you know what is the religion of the current United States Permanent Representative to the United Nations, Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad? Go thru his biography and biographies of similar personages of American Mulims and let us know which of Amercian Muslims has had/is/will/would sell out America.

Being a loyal to the country you belong to is a priorty in Islam.


Thanks, Quag - I did say to correct me if I was wrong. It seems to me that the radical element within the Muslim community moves about the middle east with complete freedom like Ali Baba and the 40 thieves with complete disdain for government. Muslims first, citizens second. Am I wrong?

Note to PW - I asked a question - you give it a "right on bro"..?
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2007 10:47 am
@socalgolfguy,
Theoretically, yes. Right now, in a practical sense, no.
Crito
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2007 12:02 pm
@quagmire cv,
quagmire;29621 wrote:
Being a loyal to the country you belong to is a priorty in Islam.


Please enlighten us to the significance of the crescent moon prominently displayed on so many flags.
politically-wrong
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2007 02:59 am
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;29682 wrote:
Thanks, Quag - I did say to correct me if I was wrong. It seems to me that the radical element within the Muslim community moves about the middle east with complete freedom like Ali Baba and the 40 thieves with complete disdain for government. Muslims first, citizens second. Am I wrong?

Note to PW - I asked a question - you give it a "right on bro"..?


socal dont misunderstand me, i just liked his posting thats all, no harm intended .
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politically-wrong
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2007 03:03 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;29693 wrote:
Theoretically, yes. Right now, in a practical sense, no.


IF it was practically impossible, that means u r saying that there is absolutely no good american muslim citizen (not even a single one) , is that right?
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2007 10:55 am
@socalgolfguy,
I wonder how many of the American converts have become zealots..? They are far more dangerous that any foreign terrorists.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2007 11:34 am
@politically-wrong,
politically-wrong;29795 wrote:
IF it was practically impossible, that means u r saying that there is absolutely no good american muslim citizen (not even a single one) , is that right?


Sure, but I wouldn't trust any of them. I know that if a relative with radical views showed up, they'd tolerate his presence, and he might blow up my family. Decent Muslims refuse to stand up to their crazed brethren, and that's the issue. :headbang:
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2007 11:52 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;29846 wrote:
Sure, but I wouldn't trust any of them. I know that if a relative with radical views showed up, they'd tolerate his presence, and he might blow up my family. Decent Muslims refuse to stand up to their crazed brethren, and that's the issue. :headbang:


I agree, even it they are good Americans they will never stand up against the fanatics. Kinda like labor union members and their uppers.
tvsej
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2007 12:09 pm
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;29834 wrote:
I wonder how many of the American converts have become zealots..? They are far more dangerous that any foreign terrorists.


What is a Zealot? I am an American if that was directed at me because I live in Germany.
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2007 12:21 pm
@tvsej,
tvsej;29859 wrote:
What is a Zealot? I am an American if that was directed at me because I live in Germany.


Absolutely not. It was directed specifically at those converts that consider Islam radicalism the driving force in their lives over and above nationalism.
tvsej
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2007 12:34 pm
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;29865 wrote:
Absolutely not. It was directed specifically at those converts that consider Islam radicalism the driving force in their lives over and above nationalism.


Sorry I asked, I was just a little confused about Zealots. Thanks for the clearification.
T.
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2007 12:50 pm
@tvsej,
tvsej;29869 wrote:
Sorry I asked, I was just a little confused about Zealots. Thanks for the clearification.
T.


You're a fine guy worthy of respect. Read and post often.
tvsej
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2007 01:16 pm
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;29877 wrote:
You're a fine guy worthy of respect. Read and post often.


Thank you again for the comps. but I am not a guy. I hope that doesn't change anything.
 

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