Can Muslims be good Americans?

If God can see into my heart there would no need for a test.

Can Religious Christians be Good Americans !?


JESUS CAMP is a disturbing, Oscar nominated documentary about a kids camp for the American children of religious extremist Christian Evangelicals. The fact that the film contains no footage of anything that the pre-teen camp members are exposed to, yet it carries a certificate PG-13, says it all. Kids At Jesus Camp Worship to a G. W. Bush Picture and are taught HATE and Violence!

Watch here the ABC News Report about the film:

ABC news report about the documentary 'Jesus Camp' YouTube - Jesus Camp (ABC news)

How dare you post links to things like this in a thread trying to villify Islam...

What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism. In the Quran, God has said:


God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)

The Prophet Muhammad used to prohibit soldiers from killing women and children,1 and he would advise them: {...Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child.}2 And he also said: {Whoever has killed a person having a treaty with the Muslims shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise, though its fragrance is found for a span of forty years.}3

Also, the Prophet Muhammad has forbidden punishment with fire.4

He once listed murder as the second of the major sins,5 and he even warned that on the Day of Judgment, {The first cases to be adjudicated between people on the Day of Judgment will be those of bloodshed.6}7

Muslims are even encouraged to be kind to animals and are forbidden to hurt them. Once the Prophet Muhammad said: {A woman was punished because she imprisoned a cat until it died. On account of this, she was doomed to Hell. While she imprisoned it, she did not give the cat food or drink, nor did she free it to eat the insects of the earth.}8

He also said that a man gave a very thirsty dog a drink, so God forgave his sins for this action. The Prophet was asked, ?Messenger of God, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?? He said: {There is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human.}9

Additionally, while taking the life of an animal for food, Muslims are commanded to do so in a manner that causes the least amount of fright and suffering possible. The Prophet Muhammad said: {When you slaughter an animal, do so in the best way. One should sharpen his knife to reduce the suffering of the animal.}10

In light of these and other Islamic texts, the act of inciting terror in the hearts of defenseless civilians, the wholesale destruction of buildings and properties, the bombing and maiming of innocent men, women, and children are all forbidden and detestable acts according to Islam and the Muslims. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the vast majority have nothing to do with the violent events some have associated with Muslims. If an individual Muslim were to commit an act of terrorism, this person would be guilty of violating the laws of Islam.


You ought to be drawn and quartered sir.

My brother, I think you need to relax, read well what I wrote and watch that video report before you write something to the wrong person!!

before you write something to the wrong person!!

..like you, or anyone else on this board matters to me.

Then why are you here? We are here to discuss all manner of subjects and if a member cares nothing about any other member, he or she should stay away.

All right lets get it straight here, nothing in the first post is true, christians, jews, muslims, all abrahamic religons, islam is verry similar to these religions except with some few differences. they are told to respect all people of god, and allah is just the arabic word for god. so please dont buy into the propaganda that all muslims are crazy terrorists who beat there wives, cause there not. muslims are people too.

Men cant beat there wives, nowhere in islamic law does it state that a man can beat there wife, it says nothing of the sort. white men beat there wives too, the thing is its not like nobody else in the world other than the middle east do people get beaten. all over the world theres abuse amongst couples.

and what is terrorism, if not invading ones country and destroying it bit by bit? sounds alot like the war in iraq and afghanistan? i thought we were going there to get rid of sadam and and drive the taliban out in afghanistan? we did that ands stayed, wich caused more terrorists to come together because they hate the US, the us occupancy is causing the war, why would people destroy there own country? the only reason i can think of is to get rid of something they dont like.

Why then do Islamic clerics issue rules for the beating of wives.

Regards
DL

In cultures where men can beat wives for misbehaving, what happens when a good wife beats a misbehaving husband?

Regards
DL

hehehe, now thats a thought that needs a thread all by it self, iam not sure that there is a law (whether islamic or otherwise)that specifically protects husbands from wives!!

Notice that no eastern reply is forthcoming.
Some believe that men also get two wives in their Heaven and I have asked the same question there as to what happens if a wife wants two husbands.
I received no replies to that one either.
Not even from the gentleman I was talking to.
Oh well.

Regards
DL