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Can Muslims be good Americans?

 
 
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 03:21 pm
@STNGfan,
STNGfan;20801 wrote:
If God can see into my heart there would no need for a test.


I find nothing to particularly to criticize for most instances.
I would just remind that God indicates in scripture a higher degree of service. Otherwise Hell.

I do not believe that there is a hell.
Nor talking snakes.

Regards
DL
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 06:38 pm
@socalgolfguy,
Can Religious Christians be Good Americans !?


JESUS CAMP is a disturbing, Oscar nominated documentary about a kids camp for the American children of religious extremist Christian Evangelicals. The fact that the film contains no footage of anything that the pre-teen camp members are exposed to, yet it carries a certificate PG-13, says it all. Kids At Jesus Camp Worship to a G. W. Bush Picture and are taught HATE and Violence!

Watch here the ABC News Report about the film:

ABC news report about the documentary 'Jesus Camp' YouTube - Jesus Camp (ABC news)
92b16vx
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 06:53 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;22420 wrote:
Can Religious Christians be Good Americans !?


JESUS CAMP is a disturbing, Oscar nominated documentary about a kids camp for the American children of religious extremist Christian Evangelicals. The fact that the film contains no footage of anything that the pre-teen camp members are exposed to, yet it carries a certificate PG-13, says it all. Kids At Jesus Camp Worship to a G. W. Bush Picture and are taught HATE and Violence!

Watch here the ABC News Report about the film:

ABC news report about the documentary 'Jesus Camp' YouTube - Jesus Camp (ABC news)
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 07:03 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;22424 wrote:


My brother, I think you need to relax, read well what I wrote and watch that video report before you write something to the wrong person!!
92b16vx
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 07:28 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;22425 wrote:
My brother, I think you need to relax, read well what I wrote and watch that video report before you write something to the wrong person!!


I think you need to have your sarcasm detector recaliberated.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 07:28 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;22425 wrote:
before you write something to the wrong person!!


Haha, wrong person, like you, or anyone else on this board matters to me.
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 08:18 pm
@Greatest I am cv,
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..like you, or anyone else on this board matters to me.


Then why are you here? We are here to discuss all manner of subjects and if a member cares nothing about any other member, he or she should stay away.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 08:51 pm
@Curmudgeon,
Curmudgeon;22445 wrote:
Then why are you here? We are here to discuss all manner of subjects and if a member cares nothing about any other member, he or she should stay away.


I suppose it was an incomplete thought. Anyway what he said sounded like a vague threat, insinuating that if I said something to the "wrong person", like that means something, something might happen.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jun, 2007 06:37 am
@socalgolfguy,
You "suppose", good one. "Sounded like" when you say that the next thing to come out is a "fact".
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Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jun, 2007 07:54 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Extremists from all religions and groups are detrimental to the group they represent. Regardless of the group.

Regards
DL
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Adeeb11
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2007 02:07 pm
@socalgolfguy,
All right lets get it straight here, nothing in the first post is true, christians, jews, muslims, all abrahamic religons, islam is verry similar to these religions except with some few differences. they are told to respect all people of god, and allah is just the arabic word for god. so please dont buy into the propaganda that all muslims are crazy terrorists who beat there wives, cause there not. muslims are people too.
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2007 11:45 am
@Adeeb11,
Adeeb11;25159 wrote:
All right lets get it straight here, nothing in the first post is true, christians, jews, muslims, all abrahamic religons, islam is verry similar to these religions except with some few differences. they are told to respect all people of god, and allah is just the arabic word for god. so please dont buy into the propaganda that all muslims are crazy terrorists who beat there wives, cause there not. muslims are people too.


Unfortunately Muslim discussions on wife beating is centered not so much on whether or not it should be done but instead on what minor beatings are as compared to severe beatings.

You are correct thought, not all wives get beatings. Those who behave do not.

Regards
DL
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Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2007 11:46 am
@Greatest I am cv,
In cultures where men can beat wives for misbehaving, what happens when a good wife beats a misbehaving husband?

Regards
DL
Adeeb11
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2007 02:13 pm
@socalgolfguy,
Men cant beat there wives, nowhere in islamic law does it state that a man can beat there wife, it says nothing of the sort. white men beat there wives too, the thing is its not like nobody else in the world other than the middle east do people get beaten. all over the world theres abuse amongst couples.

and what is terrorism, if not invading ones country and destroying it bit by bit? sounds alot like the war in iraq and afghanistan? i thought we were going there to get rid of sadam and and drive the taliban out in afghanistan? we did that ands stayed, wich caused more terrorists to come together because they hate the US, the us occupancy is causing the war, why would people destroy there own country? the only reason i can think of is to get rid of something they dont like.
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jul, 2007 07:10 am
@Adeeb11,
Adeeb11;27886 wrote:
Men cant beat there wives, nowhere in islamic law does it state that a man can beat there wife, it says nothing of the sort. white men beat there wives too, the thing is its not like nobody else in the world other than the middle east do people get beaten. all over the world theres abuse amongst couples.

and what is terrorism, if not invading ones country and destroying it bit by bit? sounds alot like the war in iraq and afghanistan? i thought we were going there to get rid of sadam and and drive the taliban out in afghanistan? we did that ands stayed, wich caused more terrorists to come together because they hate the US, the us occupancy is causing the war, why would people destroy there own country? the only reason i can think of is to get rid of something they dont like.


Why then do Islamic clerics issue rules for the beating of wives.

Regards
DL
92b16vx
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jul, 2007 08:05 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;27956 wrote:
Why then do Islamic clerics issue rules for the beating of wives.

Regards
DL


You know that the phrase "The rule of thumb" comes from when not tooo long ago it was not legal to beat you wife in America with a stick bigger than your thumb?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jul, 2007 08:28 am
@socalgolfguy,
Didn't know that, Nice. Gotta get me a bigger stick, LOL
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politically-wrong
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jul, 2007 02:49 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;27880 wrote:
In cultures where men can beat wives for misbehaving, what happens when a good wife beats a misbehaving husband?

Regards
DL


hehehe, now thats a thought that needs a thread all by it self, iam not sure that there is a law (whether islamic or otherwise)that specifically protects husbands from wives!!
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jul, 2007 03:07 am
@politically-wrong,
politically-wrong;28386 wrote:
hehehe, now thats a thought that needs a thread all by it self, iam not sure that there is a law (whether islamic or otherwise)that specifically protects husbands from wives!!


Notice that no eastern reply is forthcoming.
Some believe that men also get two wives in their Heaven and I have asked the same question there as to what happens if a wife wants two husbands.
I received no replies to that one either.
Not even from the gentleman I was talking to.
Oh well.

Regards
DL
politically-wrong
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jul, 2007 03:39 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;28387 wrote:
Notice that no eastern reply is forthcoming.
Some believe that men also get two wives in their Heaven and I have asked the same question there as to what happens if a wife wants two husbands.
I received no replies to that one either.
Not even from the gentleman I was talking to.
Oh well.

Regards
DL


sorry but i must have missed the question, there r several in ur post exactly which one r u talking about (u know the one where no eastern reply is forthcoming).
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