Can Muslims be good Americans?

The whole point I'm trying to make is that I don't have to answer to you and your accusations because I am not Jewish, and my religion does not and has not followed those rules because we don't have to because we're Christian. If you want to throw out the whole book because you have a problem with a part of it that isn't even used anymore, go ahead.

the problem with that is that a large portion of those Muslims, the "non radicals" still sympathize with them.

you may not use it but by Christian standards the OT is still considered Canon, which means all that angy god stuff is the same god christians call "The Father", to disregard that is to do exactly what Italk about. Dinning "Buffet Style" from your religion

No, I am not an 'Israelite.' Look at my previous posts, God told Moses 'Tell the Israelites this: and 'These are the laws you are to set before them (the Israelites', not Christians as well.

There are sects that def believe that but I think the counterpoint was that the majority of Muslims don't think that way

the problem with that is that a large portion of those Muslims, the "non radicals" still sympathize with them. The amount of Muslims do don't believe in violence and don't sympathize with those Muslims on any level is not large enough by any standards

1/4th of American Muslim youths recently polled said that suicide bombing "could" be justifiable

False friendship with the unbelievers is okay to benefit Islam, but real alliances and friendship is forbidden. Lies are also subject to such standards: do not lie among Muslims, but lie to Kafir to benefit Islam.

Oh I know what your saying I just don't agree

the Idea that a perfect and timeless being would set a separate standard of law for the Israelites, another separate standard for the Corinthians, and then now a more convenient set of laws for you in the modern age speaks against any notion that God is timeless and that there are definite standards for right and wrong...

you've basically boiled down your religion to the point where you're able to do away with any part of the Bible that doesn't suit you and since there's no gospel entitled "Americans" you're free to do what you think is right and then claim you're following Jesus's will and that you beliefs encompass Christianity

That's not true, I still follow the Ten Commandments, etc., it's just that there are some practices that were meant for people of that race at that time, not today's Christians.

You can disagree all you want, if you'd rather see people stoning children, I don't know what you're smoking, if not, I have no idea why you reject my argument so vehemently.

They do think that way, that is the only way a Muslim can think.

But why follow the 10 commandments and not follow the other 1st covenant laws? All the 10 commandments are is the first 10 rules God gave Israel. If you look in the Bible you will see that nowhere are the 10 commandments differentiated from the rest of the first covenant

And I don't disagree with your personal ethics code, I'm obviously not going to throw rocks at kids. I oppose you claiming your self made collection of ethics as being the sole true word of God as portrayed in the Bible.

wow man, you ever leave Pa?

Azmr, sometimes I see the things you say and think to myself "this guy is a ***ing dickhead", sometimes not though. To bad most of the troglodytes here only have what the media tells them to help them apply Bushs "War on Terror" to a muslim face. I know quite a few muslims in the late 90s when I lived in Austin, they were model citizens.

Model citizens to maintain camo.

It's a comfort knowing that your "bible party" will never amount to anything more than your little pipe dream.

I love how in one thread most of you point to Iraq succeeding, and we have to stay in Iraq to help the people (muslims) so they can defeat muslim extremist. In another, like this one, they (muslims) are all out to get us and they(muslims) are all the enemy. Holy schizophrenia batman. Get some ***ing consistancy, and then your views might have a valid sense about them, till then it's all misguided, bordering on racist rambling.