Does Iraq want us there?

Like i say, in your opinion but when you can't elaborate?

Open them as wide as you want there is still nothing in between but ...............................................LOL.

The only thing that concerns me is that our experts say we cannot continue at the current troop levels past April 08. so if we're staying there we need to figure out how to sustain our force.

Maybe in 2008 for every platoon the Iraqi military puts into service we should withdrawal that many people. Leaving the size of force constant. The last two years of training should be enough of a stagger for experience.

you did start this mess pino,but the iraqi people dont want you there,by being there your only making things worse.

They want stability, and we're the only ones who can give it to them right now. Iraq isn't a real country. It was created by the British, after WWI, irrespective of pre-existing, territorial tribal boundaries. We're trying to hold together a fake country that was only kept together previously by dictatorial brutality. Yet, if we split the place up into its three major internal nations, we'll be accused of obscene imperialism, and equally condemned by the world. Pulling out suddenly, Scoob, would the very worst thing we could possibly do. You ought to know that. It should be obvious. Just think about how much you'd like to walk, jog or ride a bicycle to work every day, for a very, very long time -- possibly forever. :headbang:

They want stability, and we're the only ones who can give it to them right now. Iraq isn't a real country. It was created by the British, after WWI, irrespective of pre-existing, territorial tribal boundaries. We're trying to hold together a fake country that was only kept together previously by dictatorial brutality. Yet, if we split the place up into its three major internal nations, we'll be accused of obscene imperialism, and equally condemned by the world. Pulling out suddenly, Scoob, would the very worst thing we could possibly do. You ought to know that. It should be obvious. Just think about how much you'd like to walk, jog or ride a bicycle to work every day, for a very, very long time -- possibly forever. :headbang:

Iraq isn't a real country. It was created by the British, after WWI,

the whole of the middle-east was carved up by the british and french after WW1,sometimes you have got to let them work it out for themselves,the us govenrment never gave a **** when they knew saddam was commiting genocide in the 80s,why now ? do you honestly think american troops would be in iraq if it had no oil ?

the us govenrment never gave a **** when they knew saddam was commiting genocide in the 80s,why now ?

Yeah let them work it out after you've had you hand in it, nice!So did you guys send it troops when you heard about the genocide? So was it what you would call a pullout after WW1? Seems you guys are haveing a problem with commitment? You were handed you ass by us back in the day, we helped you save you ass in WW2 and now come to find out you gave us the handoff yet again after you screwed Iraq up first. Your glass house isn't what it used to be?

the whole of the middle-east was carved up by the british and french after WW1,sometimes you have got to let them work it out for themselves,the us govenrment never gave a **** when they knew saddam was commiting genocide in the 80s,why now ? do you honestly think american troops would be in iraq if it had no oil ?

you honestly think the iraqis want american troops on their soil ?

I'm not in the loop on specific tactics, but I say end escalation policy and go with a fixed force, garrisoned in fortresses throughout the country. Man these units with as many volunteers as possible. I bet it would work. Dunno, though. Dunno.

Untill you come up with something to back up your statement otherwise, Yes.

Here is a prime example of why you fail. Even though I have talked with hundreds of Iraqis, and can say that it is a fact they do not want us there, you'd cry that it's not "proof" simply because it refutes your one-sided view. You'd sooner believe a third party account, as opposed to a first person experiance simply because it plays to your views. Fail.

Who asked you? My suggestion would be to stop talking to terrorists and start killing them.

Everything about the Middle East is connected to oil. Everything. But, we didn't invade for it. That's one of the dumbest conspiracy theories ever. As to Saddam's genocide in the '80s -- we were determined to punish Iran and defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan. Iraq wasn't an issue. The old adage, "my enemy's enemy is my friend", proved true to form in that instance.

Side-question: Are you a college student, Scoob? Your leftist idealism reminds me of myself, back in ancient times, and my son, who is now going through his commie phase.