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Does Iraq want us there?

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Silverchild79
 
Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 09:41 am
According to this Foreign Minister they NEED us there

Iraqi: U.S. Pullout Will Fuel Civil War, Foreign Minister Warns Of Internal, Regional Disaster If U.S. Withdrawals - CBS News
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 09:45 am
@Silverchild79,
We started this mess. There's no way out now. Sorry, America. Get used to it.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 10:28 am
@Silverchild79,
Ditto!
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 10:34 am
@Silverchild79,
The only thing that concerns me is that our experts say we cannot continue at the current troop levels past April 08. so if we're staying there we need to figure out how to sustain our force.

Maybe in 2008 for every platoon the Iraqi military puts into service we should withdrawal that many people. Leaving the size of force constant. The last two years of training should be enough of a stagger for experience.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 12:03 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;25467 wrote:
We started this mess. There's no way out now. Sorry, America. Get used to it.


you did start this mess pino,but the iraqi people dont want you there,by being there your only making things worse.
Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 12:08 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;25490 wrote:
you did start this mess pino,but the iraqi people dont want you there,by being there your only making things worse.


I've had 3 close friends or family members who've been on the ground there and they say that 85% of people a honest hardworking people who understand what the US are trying to do and that 15% are radical and some of them are even violent.

If Iraq is going to be free it has to be the majority that rules, not the majority while the minority blow up marketplaces
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 12:15 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;25492 wrote:
I've had 3 close friends or family members who've been on the ground there and they say that 85% of people a honest hardworking people who understand what the US are trying to do and that 15% are radical and some of them are even violent.

If Iraq is going to be free it has to be the majority that rules, not the majority while the minority blow up marketplaces


hmmm interesting, are they westerners by any chance ?
Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 12:29 pm
@Silverchild79,
the 85%?

no they where Iraqi's, mostly in Baghdad. In fact a good friend of mine tells a story about a 6 hour gun battle they had with insurgents. When it was over a local citizen came out of his house (which was riddled with bullet holes from the fighting) and invited them in for something to drink.

a large portion of the Iraqi's don't want us there, but they don't want us to leave either. They understand that we're still necessary for the time being, and according to some estimates the insurgency will continue for another 5 years.

I think Lieberman has it right, we need to cut off the funding (2 million/month by his estimates) and training camps in Iran and Syria and Iraq will stabilize.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 01:06 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;25490 wrote:
you did start this mess pino,but the iraqi people dont want you there,by being there your only making things worse.

So says the scotsman. Still meddling are we?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 01:07 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;25495 wrote:
hmmm interesting, are they westerners by any chance ?
They will be, just like you became. Pot meet kettle.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 01:26 pm
@Silverchild79,
Scooby's always been a Westerner, hasn't he?
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 01:32 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;25507 wrote:
They will be, just like you became. Pot meet kettle.


i dont think there will be many westerners on the ground in iraq lol meeting the iraqi people on the street.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 01:34 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;25518 wrote:
Scooby's always been a Westerner, hasn't he?


yeh ! born and bred in scotland :thumbup: does that count as the west ?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 01:35 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;25520 wrote:
i dont think there will be many westerners on the ground in iraq lol meeting the iraqi people on the street.
How many have you meet? Can you name one?
Or should i say meddle meet kettle, LOL.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 01:40 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;25523 wrote:
How many have you meet? Can you name one?


nope ! but i dont think there will be many westerners out on the streets of iraq,do they live among the iraqi people or in army barracks or the green zone in baghdad ?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 01:48 pm
@Silverchild79,
Some live in there cozy home in Scotland.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 01:51 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;25531 wrote:
Some live in there cozy home in Scotland.


yeh i told you that :thumbup:
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 01:54 pm
@Silverchild79,
Where it's save to voice an opinion for now.
Meddle is as meddle does.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 01:59 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;25539 wrote:
Where it's save to voice an opinion for now.
Meddle is as meddle does.


it has actually been made unsafer since the war in iraq :thumbup:
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 02:00 pm
@Silverchild79,
Like i say, in your opinion but when you can't elaborate?
 

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