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Hatred hurled from the left towards Christians, why?

 
 
Numpty
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2008 04:13 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;56176 wrote:
The Left hates Christianity because it stands against their true god -- Karl Marx. It impugns them for their historical genocide, and exposes them as they killers and slave-masters they've always been, despite what their propaganda says about their philosophical ideals. Marx, Lenin, and Mao were some of the worst criminals against humanity ever to walk the earth.:thumbdown:


Not sure what my left side has to do with this, is my right side not allowed a say, how does my body work with out both?

I digress, trouble is athiests do bad stuff to good people it is true, but so do christians and if you want to live your life according to a book and use commandments in it to live your life then you are gonna leave yourself wide open.

Not sure there is a commandment for:

Thou shalt marry and impregnate girls under 16
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2008 04:20 pm
@Numpty,
Numpty;56198 wrote:


Thou shalt marry and impregnate girls under 16


That was common way back in colonial times and still is in certain parts of the word.
Numpty
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2008 04:21 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;56199 wrote:
That was common way back in colonial times and still is in certain parts of the word.


But not in America circa 2008
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2008 04:58 pm
@Numpty,
Numpty;56200 wrote:
But not in America circa 2008


maybe not the marriage part, but impregnating 16 year old girls seems way too damn common where I live. :thumbdown:
Numpty
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2008 05:01 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;56201 wrote:
maybe not the marriage part, but impregnating 16 year old girls seems way too damn common where I live. :thumbdown:


Agreed, but I'm guessing these young 'ladies' have a choice in the matter and are not part of a group who are 'groomed' from a young age.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2008 06:09 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;56192 wrote:
Thats all nice and dandy but you're still dodging, tell me why this quote is wrong:







( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered on July 5, 1944)


This is crap. He didn't say it.:FU1:
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2008 06:11 pm
@Numpty,
Numpty;56198 wrote:
Not sure what my left side has to do with this, is my right side not allowed a say, how does my body work with out both?

I digress, trouble is athiests do bad stuff to good people it is true, but so do christians and if you want to live your life according to a book and use commandments in it to live your life then you are gonna leave yourself wide open.

Not sure there is a commandment for:

Thou shalt marry and impregnate girls under 16


Nump.....you should move to Uganda. :banana:
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2008 06:51 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;56207 wrote:
This is crap. He didn't say it.:FU1:


Why? simply because you refuse to accept it? I have you in a corner Pino, for you there is no way out of this. Very Happy

It's time for you to admit the obvious!
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 17 Apr, 2008 07:47 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;56212 wrote:
Why? simply because you refuse to accept it? I have you in a corner Pino, for you there is no way out of this. Very Happy

It's time for you to admit the obvious!


You don't know Hitler. He was a hardcore social Darwinist. He took Darwinism to a new level. He believed the fittest must not only survive, but also kill off the weak. He considered 'conscience' to be a Jewish contrivance. I don't care what source you come up with, you don't know Hitler's story. You are not a student of History. You're a conspiracist with a computer.:thumbdown:
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Thu 17 Apr, 2008 07:57 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;56283 wrote:
You don't know Hitler. He was a hardcore social Darwinist. He took Darwinism to a new level. He believed the fittest must not only survive, but also kill off the weak. He considered 'conscience' to be a Jewish contrivance. I don't care what source you come up with, you don't know Hitler's story. You are not a student of History. You're a conspiracist with a computer.:thumbdown:


This is pathetic pino, your arguemnt has degraded to "well i just know your wrong".

unless you have some kind of evidence to disprove me, then i formally consider this argument over. Have a nice day Very Happy
Numpty
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 02:28 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;56208 wrote:
Nump.....you should move to Uganda. :banana:


Why is there a commandment in the bible there that says you can marry and impregnate under 16's?
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 05:08 am
@Numpty,
Numpty;56301 wrote:
Why is there a commandment in the bible there that says you can marry and impregnate under 16's?


Because many of the people who wrote the Bible thought that was okay. Given their culture at the time, their ancient mindset, and fallibility as human beings, they didn't see anything wrong with that. We know better now. The Bible should not be interpreted literally. It must be put in historical context. Among many other lessons, it shows the imperfection of Man, to include its many authors. Sorry I didn't provide the Fundamentalist answer you were anticipating and hoping for. I'm not a Fundie. I'm Catholic. :headbang:
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 05:18 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;56285 wrote:
This is pathetic pino, your arguemnt has degraded to "well i just know your wrong".

unless you have some kind of evidence to disprove me, then i formally consider this argument over. Have a nice day Very Happy


I'm not going to waste my time compensating for your obviously poor educaton in History. That's your problem, and if you went to public school, it's Michigan's problem, too. I love History, have studied it my entire adult life, teach it for a living, still read it every single day in huge volumes, and I'm telling you, Mr. Conspiracist with a Computer, YOU DON'T KNOW THE STORY OF ADOLF HITLER. Let me put it in terms even you can understand: I HAVE READ AT LEAST 20 TO 30 SERIOUS, SCHOLARLY WORKS ON ADOLF HITLER, AND HAVE TAKEN SEVERAL COLLEGE-LEVEL COURSES ON NAZI GERMANY, WWII, ITS CAUSES, AND AFTERMATH. I don't give a damn about your lack of knowledge. Hitler hated Judaism and Christianity, but had to be careful about totally wiping out the latter, since most Germans, even though they caved in and opted for pre-Christian, Germanic tribalism in their following of Hitler, still belonged to either Catholic or Protestant traditions. The Germans have always been given to tribalist totalitarianism, racism and overwhelming aggression. The Romans knew this about them, all too well, which the Catholic Church did as well, as it wrestled to convert them in the Middle Ages. HITLER WAS A THROW-BACK TO PRE-CHRISTIAN, GERMANIC BARBARIANSIM. He wasn't a Christian and NEITHER ARE YOU. Get off my religion, Bakunin. :FU1:
Numpty
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 05:27 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;56311 wrote:
Because many of the people who wrote the Bible thought that was okay. Given their culture at the time, their ancient mindset, and fallibility as human beings, they didn't see anything wrong with that. We know better now. The Bible should not be interpreted literally. It must be put in historical context. Among many other lessons, it shows the imperfection of Man, to include its many authors. Sorry I didn't provide the Fundamentalist answer you were anticipating and hoping for. I'm not a Fundie. I'm Catholic. :headbang:


Fundie/ Catholic same difference.

No. you give the standard stance of a modern day religous person who's religion as been disected, taken apart and shown for what it is,...spirituallity from a story book.

Bottom line is 100, 200, 300, 400, 500 years ago the bible was taken literally it is only since the level of education has risen in the developed countries are people now able to understand themselves how fallable all religous fairy stories are. which means because many of the things which were once believed are no more you have to dine buffet style from the bible picking and chosing what to interpret as 'real' and what is not.

So I was anticipating that exact answer, thank you for confirming my suspicions. :thumbup:
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 05:39 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;56283 wrote:
You don't know Hitler. He was a hardcore social Darwinist. He took Darwinism to a new level. He believed the fittest must not only survive, but also kill off the weak. He considered 'conscience' to be a Jewish contrivance. I don't care what source you come up with, you don't know Hitler's story. You are not a student of History. You're a conspiracist with a computer.:thumbdown:


Social "Darwinism" was NOT one of Charlie D's ideas. Try Herbert Spencer for that one.

So you kinda tripped there saying he took Darwinism to a new level... Darwin never came up with that idea. The only links between the two are the name itself.

C'mon... history teacher, you should know this.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 03:09 pm
@Red cv,
Quote:
Fundie/ Catholic same difference.


This is a good indicator of your level of intelligence.
Numpty
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 04:11 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;56326 wrote:
This is a good indicator of your level of intelligence.


Really, so in your superior intelligence explain me the difference.

You know me, Religion = noob. Always has always will :beat:
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 05:28 pm
@Numpty,
Numpty;56330 wrote:
Really, so in your superior intelligence explain me the difference.

You know me, Religion = noob. Always has always will :beat:


You almost make this too easy. If you say Fundamentalists(religion)=Catholics(religion), then it's pretty much the same as saying You (atheist)=Josef Stalin (atheist).

In Soviet Russia, debate loses YOU!
Numpty
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 06:25 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;56334 wrote:
You almost make this too easy. If you say Fundamentalists(religion)=Catholics(religion), then it's pretty much the same as saying You (atheist)=Josef Stalin (atheist).

In Soviet Russia, debate loses YOU!


So explain to me how a Catholic is not a fundamentalist.

When did the whitch hunting stop, and why?

When did the inquesistion stop, and why?

When did the Catholic Church start dining buffet style from the Bible, and why?

Why did the Bible stop being taken literally by the Catholics?

Who decided what was written in the bible was not the word of god, was indeed not to be taken literally and on who's authority was this administered and sanctioned by?

Why does the Catholic church have biggest pedofile ring in the world?

Pedophile Priest Statistics

Enjoy

Don't presume to be interlectually superior to me, it makes you look like a snobbish ass.

Ones background shouldn't matter only the way in which you treat people, you have alot to learn about humility.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 08:36 pm
@Numpty,
Numpty;56315 wrote:
Fundie/ Catholic same difference.

No. you give the standard stance of a modern day religous person who's religion as been disected, taken apart and shown for what it is,...spirituallity from a story book.

Bottom line is 100, 200, 300, 400, 500 years ago the bible was taken literally it is only since the level of education has risen in the developed countries are people now able to understand themselves how fallable all religous fairy stories are. which means because many of the things which were once believed are no more you have to dine buffet style from the bible picking and chosing what to interpret as 'real' and what is not.

So I was anticipating that exact answer, thank you for confirming my suspicions. :thumbup:


Stick to running your small business. Leave the heavy-lifting in history and theology to those who read. BTW, your supply cabinet is low on pencils.:no:
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