Hatred hurled from the left towards Christians, why?

Pear of Anguish. That's all I need to say.

Continuing on... you would be incorrect in your first statement, nothing negative being ignored. Also you would be GROSSLY incorrect that the Pope during the Inquisitions criticized it. You do realize that most of the torture devices made were for THAT specific event, correct? These were used to get confessions from heretics. Oh yes, yes yes yes the Church loved torture and the Pope condoned it.

Define "mainstream Christian beliefs".

"Hitler was a Christian" Statement

"But he did not have mainstream Christian beliefs" Damage Control

Why are you flexing the definition? Laypeople, famous people, does it matter? Is there a separate definition for "Hitler" and "Everyone else?" Does Pete have two sets of standards for those waiting at the gates? Isn't a sinner going to the same Hell as Hitler?

You're afraid to apply your own definition. Unless it's on the extremes, either good or evil, you refuse to apply your own definition. You've got this "mainstream Christian beliefs" definition all written in stone apparently, and the only person you feel safe using this on is... Hitler?

He wrote it in 1923, back when he needed popular votes. He was open about his anti-Christianity by the time he consolidated all power.

Specific incidents in which it was used? And still, you think that would make Hitler cringe? Hitler killed 6 million, and tortured millions, I sincerely doubt even the worst pope came close.

Historical revision of the Inquisition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It seems to me you're basing your "Inquistion" on the Black Legend. Couldn't find the source of the pope saying the torture was too harsh, but I'm completely sure I've read it.

A few thousand dead. Hitler would cringe at this?

"Beliefs held by most contemporary and/or modern Christians."

Give an example of some context in which you would say "Hitler was a Christian" to someone who knew nothing about Hitler's religion and where it would be a complete description of his religious beliefs.

There is no such context, because such a person would only be able to judge the term "Christian" against what they know about Christianity. They would be forced to assume that Hitler held the same beliefs as a typical modern Christian.

Can't you just tack on a simple phrase at the end for the sake of clarity?

I'm not quite sure what this has to do with my statement. I was criticizing your "97%" statistic. By definition of "mainstream" 97% of one group can not possible be outside the mainstream. But Hitler was certainly not a good example of a typical Christian.

Sabz, you simply haven't read much about Hitler or WWII. Sorry. You don't know very much. You obviously haven't studied the entire story of Adolf Hitler. I began reading about the animal when I was in elementary school. I have a degree in history and I teach history. I'm telling you that YOU DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT ADOLF HITLER. :thumbdown:

Sabz, you simply haven't read much about Hitler or WWII. Sorry. You don't know very much. You obviously haven't studied the entire story of Adolf Hitler. I began reading about the animal when I was in elementary school. I have a degree in history and I teach history. I'm telling you that YOU DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT ADOLF HITLER. :thumbdown:

You teach history!?

Now thats a scary thought!!! :eek:

Too bad you weren't able to directly refute many of my direct quotes of him specifically saying he was a catholic christian. But you can hold on to your conspiracy theories if thats what helps you sleep better at night.

Your quotes must have come from sources pre-dating his assumption of total power in the mid-1930s. As I said many times before, HE NEEDED POPULAR SUPPORT IN THE BEGINNING OF HIS CLIMB TO POWER, AND PANDERED TO CATHOLIC SENTIMENT. Privately, he hated Christianity and considered it incompatible with the 'natural' German ethos. That's what I mean -- you have to study the entire story of Adolf Hitler to know where he stood on religion.

*notice the date of this speech

You don't know his story. 'Nuff said. Since you're into spreading lies, I say it was you who first injected Blacks with AIDS. Yeah....it was you. You Michigan slave-masters needed to control the Blacks who worked in your auto-factories. So, you injected them with AIDS. Wright is talking about you murderous bourgeoisie types in the Rust Belt.

What, are you unable to continue this argument when present with actual FACTS? :eek:

Don't care to tell me why either the date on that speech is wrong or that he doesn't actually mean what he says? You're hitting a brick wall, Pino and you know it. :banghead:

It's funny though because i can always tell when you've been beat in an argument because you always make those sarcastic conspiracies and 'Ad hominem' attacks.

Yeah......I feel totally destroyed here. YOU HAVE BROKEN ME, BACKWOODS BOY. I can't take it anymore. Don't toy with me like this.:elefant:

PINO:
You don't know his story. 'Nuff said.

yeah especially when most of your arguments resort to this:



which is the same as saying "you're wrong because i said so..."

What, are you unable to continue this argument when present with actual FACTS? :eek:

Don't care to tell me why either the date on that speech is wrong or that he doesn't actually mean what he says? You're hitting a brick wall, Pino and you know it. :banghead:

It's funny though because i can always tell when you've been beat in an argument because you always make those sarcastic conspiracies and 'Ad hominem' attacks.

I'm armed to the teeth with facts. You are the AIDS-Injector Wright keeps babbling about. It's YOU, Dog. Think about it. You oppressed Blacks in your auto-factories, including Malcolm X, who came from Lansing, MI. You tormented the poor guy, radicalized him, and then sent him east, to Boston and NY, to launch race-wars against Whitie. Then you instructed other Blacks, whom you addicted to heroine, to kill him on your behalf, ALL TO KEEP YOUR SLAVE-DRIVING AUTO-INDUSTRY AFLOAT. Now you're hiding in the backwoods, amid rusted out auto-hulls, neck-deep in black-snow, espousing anarchy, hoping the Black Panthers will overlook you in their quest for revenge. :rollinglaugh::rollinglaugh::rollinglaugh: