The Fight for America

America is at war. I want America to win that war. Many Americans are tired of the war, and want to surrender, at any cost. They're wrong -- fatally wrong -- and must be defeated in the theater of public debate. Defeatists be damned. America: TRAIN, FIGHT, WIN. Hoooaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

having you stopped taking your pills pino ? medication time :eek:

I'm taking the same pills Blair, his followers and the soldiers he sent to Iraq (who are still there, BTW) took and are still taking. :rollinglaugh:

America was attacked on 911. Shocked and angry, it mobilized and counter-attacked its enemies. The fight took the form of two counter-insurgencies in distant lands. Time passed, many Americans got tired of and disheartened with war, and gradually forgot 911. Now they're demanding a full-fledged, US retreat at all costs, the future-be-damned, directly in the face of the enemy. They're killing America with their defeatism, and exposing a self-hatred as Americans that's utterly insane. True-blooded Americans will not be swayed by them, and will continue to press the fight against the perpetrators of 911 until they exist no more. God bless the land and people Washington and Lincoln dedicated their lives to freeing and holding together in crisis. :patriot:

there's nothing to "win" in the first place.

what IS the goal?

I really would like to know the goal as well. Are we fighting for freedom? If we are fighting for freedom then how come the government is taking away my freedom using "terrorism" as a reason. I have not given up nor have I forgot 9.11. None of us have, how could you? I am a patriot because I want what is best for this country. At the beginning I felt that Iraq deserved to get what they got, but the more I have read and the more that I have thought about it, we are gaining nothing. We should concentrate our efforts in Afghanistan where the attacks originated from, if that is what you believe. The reason why the Extremest presence is so high in Iraq is because we are still there, we are still funding Israel and Saudi Arabia. The demands have always been there and we simply ignored them and brushed it off as if it where nothing. Much like a little book entitled Mein Komf. A book that was written by a guy you may have heard of, Hitler. His book came out several years before he assumed power and no one took a second look at it. Then look what happened.

When did the iraq war start for you? Most people left of center say post 9/11, you?

"America was attacked on 9/11" not by iraq it wasn't !

I still can't believe people try to justify the Iraq war with 9/11. It's discouragingly ignorant.

I know this, but what I am saying is people are so shocked that people hate us but there are several reasons why they do and I cited a few of those reasons. I know that we will never cut ties with Israel or the Saudis. How am I being naive and unthoughtful in your words? Why is it so wrong for me to expect more out of our country? That is great you have come to terms with our current way of life but I have not. I will not, we must always strive to be better then we are. Simply saying well we are in it may as well keep with the same course of action is not a benefit to this country. For us to grow as a people we must learn from our mistakes and adapt. No one will view us as being a weak nation if we one day stood up and said, you know what, we screwed up. It takes a bigger man to admit a mistake then a man who simply ignores the problem and blames everyone else for his short comings.

Why are we still in Germany and Japan. See a correlation? We like strategic bases on our friends front door steps. Wouldn't you agree that Iraq would be a great staging point for the US when we go into Iran?