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Islamic Europe

 
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 12:30 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;32555 wrote:
So unless they take it out so you don't miss it, you probably wouldn't give anything to "welfare statism" or "national health service"? So we can consider you a bad atheist because the only reason you give is because they take it from you? I guess then even a bad Christian is better then a good atheist? What makes you think we need one? Why did your country have to enact legislation to take money from you to fund national health, why didn't you humanitarians put up the cash up front to fund such a thing if you are so gungho about national health, IMO it is because if they didn't take it form you, you wouldn't give ****. And as per your statement, i am correct in my observation.


"i am correct in my obvervation" you certainly...............are not !
Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 12:40 pm
@Pinochet73,
You said what you give is in proportion to what you earned. I asked it you ment tax's and you said sure thing. Open and shut to me? You don't give unless they take it, how humanitarian of you.
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 01:02 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;32565 wrote:
You said what you give is in proportion to what you earned. I asked it you ment tax's and you said sure thing. Open and shut to me? You don't give unless they take it, how humanitarian of you.


the differnce being,people know that some of their taxes are going to the national health service,and it would be political suicide for any party here in the UK,to say they want an end to the national health service,its part of the political parties policy and manifesto's hear in the UK,and then the public vote for who they prefer.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 04:59 am
@Pinochet73,
How much of your income do you fork over to Big Brother, Scoob? Just curious. Is it over half? Is it worth what you get in return?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 09:00 am
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;32571 wrote:
the differnce being,people know that some of their taxes are going to the national health service,and it would be political suicide for any party here in the UK,to say they want an end to the national health service,its part of the political parties policy and manifesto's hear in the UK,and then the public vote for who they prefer.
Still does not change my observation regardless of how it's implimented. I know my taxes go to treating kids with sniffles in the ER because they don't have insurance. I know it pays for illegals who come here just to have there kids. So they instantly qualify for welfare. I pay for all of this and i still give above and beyond with money, donated time, or what ever i think i can help out with. I donate more time then i get paid for working on anygiven week. That is what a good Christian does, as opposed to an atheist who thinks he's humanitian because he doesn't complain about charity when it is physically removed from his check. I say again, i guess a bad Christian is better then a good atheist?
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 11:51 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;32647 wrote:
Still does not change my observation regardless of how it's implimented. I know my taxes go to treating kids with sniffles in the ER because they don't have insurance. I know it pays for illegals who come here just to have there kids. So they instantly qualify for welfare. I pay for all of this and i still give above and beyond with money, donated time, or what ever i think i can help out with. I donate more time then i get paid for working on anygiven week. That is what a good Christian does, as opposed to an atheist who thinks he's humanitian because he doesn't complain about charity when it is physically removed from his check. I say again, i guess a bad Christian is better then a good atheist?


the difference being you dont seem to be in favour of a hational health service in the US,in the UK people know they are paying more for a national health service,the national health service issue,is a big deal over here in the UK,PEOPLE WANT A NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE !
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 01:09 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
Well looky see what is happening in Eurabia these days, it appears a group wanted to protest in Brussels against the Islamification of Europe but that's considered preaching hate and racist so they can't practice free speech but a Pro-Hezbollah group can march against Islamophobia and racism on September 11. You know the day Muslim Extremist killed, murdered 3000 Americans. Note at the end of the article the Arabs issue an ultimatum to the Jews? Yea talk about hatred and Racism, the Arabs are masters.

Yes I'm serious:

Pro-Hezbollah Group Will Demonstrate in Brussels on 9/11
From the desk of Paul Belien on Thu, 2007-08-23 11:38
The Arab-European League (AEL), a pro-Hezbollah organization of Arab immigrants in Belgium and the Netherlands, is rallying its members to march in Brussels on 11 September ?against Islamophobia and racism in Europe.? The AEL demonstration is a response to the request by the Danish-British-German organization Stop the Islamisation of Europe (SIOE) for permission to demonstrate on 9/11 in front of the European Union?s buildings in Brussels against the introduction of Sharia laws in Europe.

Two weeks ago the SIOE demonstration was banned by Freddy Thielemans, the mayor of Brussels. According to Mr Thielemans the SIOE demonstration is a criminal offence because it ?incite[s] to discrimination and hatred, which we usually call racism and xenophobia. [This] is forbidden by a considerable number of international treaties and is punished by our penal laws and by the European legislation.?

SIOE has initiated an appeal against the mayor?s ban before the Belgian Council of State. The CoS is expected to issue its verdict next week. Last week Mayor Thielemans gave permission for a demonstration in Brussels on 9 September by United for Truth (UfT), a group which claims that the terror attacks of 9/11/2001 on the WTC towers in NY and on the Pentagon were organized by the American government.

On its website UfT writes that the Brussels authorities, before giving permission for the UfT demonstration, checked that the demonstration would not address religious topics. ?The biggest issue was if there was any possible conflict [of our demonstration] with religion. As we just base ourselves on facts and political issues, we have no intention to discriminate or promote any religion.?

Yesterday the Arab-European League issued a press release emphasizing that its own demonstration on 11 September, which so far has not received the mayor?s permission (Thielemans is waiting for the advice of the police), will not criticize any religion. ?The AEL respects everyone?s religious convictions, culture and language [?]. The demand for respect for every religious conviction is the central theme [of the demonstration].? The AEL says that freedom of expression is an absolute right, stressing that the organization did not ask for the SIOE demo to be forbidden. ?However, the right to have one?s religious convictions, culture and language respected is an equally absolute right.?

The AEL was founded in Belgium in 2000. Its founder, Lebanese-born Hezbollah-member Dyab Abu Jahjah, has called the 9/11/2001 attacks ?sweet revenge.? Following the Danish cartoon affair the AEL, advocating unrestricted freedom of speech, published anti-Semitic cartoons which deny the Holocaust. Though such denial is illegal in Belgium, the Belgian authorities failed to take any action. The AEL also demands that Arabic be recognized as an official language in Belgium.

The organization says it stands for three basic demands. ?Bilingual education for Arab-speaking kids, hiring quotas that protect Muslims, and the right to keep our cultural customs.? According to Jahjah ?Assimilation is cultural rape. It means renouncing your identity, becoming like the others.? In 2002 an AEL demonstration in Antwerp led to street riots and anti-Semitic violence. The AEL wants ?the Jewish community in Antwerp to cease its support of, and distance itself from, the state of Israel. If not, attacks in Antwerp are almost unpreventable.?

Link;
Pro-Hezbollah Group Will Demonstrate in Brussels on 9/11 | The Brussels Journal
More on this topic:

Brussels Mayor Warns: 9/11 Demonstrators Are Criminals, 20 August 2007

This Demo Is NOT Being Banned, 17 August 2007

Organizers of Brussels Anti-Sharia Demo Appeal against Ban, 16 August 2007

See You in Brussels, Freddy, 15 August 2007

Thank You, Mr. Mayor: Champagne for Everyone, 13 August 2007
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 01:20 pm
@Red cv,
Red;32696 wrote:
Well looky see what is happening in Eurabia these days, it appears a group wanted to protest in Brussels against the Islamification of Europe but that's considered preaching hate and racist so they can't practice free speech but a Pro-Hezbollah group can march against Islamophobia and racism on September 11. You know the day Muslim Extremist killed, murdered 3000 Americans. Note at the end of the article the Arabs issue an ultimatum to the Jews? Yea talk about hatred and Racism, the Arabs are masters.

Yes I'm serious:

Pro-Hezbollah Group Will Demonstrate in Brussels on 9/11
From the desk of Paul Belien on Thu, 2007-08-23 11:38
The Arab-European League (AEL), a pro-Hezbollah organization of Arab immigrants in Belgium and the Netherlands, is rallying its members to march in Brussels on 11 September ?against Islamophobia and racism in Europe.? The AEL demonstration is a response to the request by the Danish-British-German organization Stop the Islamisation of Europe (SIOE) for permission to demonstrate on 9/11 in front of the European Union?s buildings in Brussels against the introduction of Sharia laws in Europe.

Two weeks ago the SIOE demonstration was banned by Freddy Thielemans, the mayor of Brussels. According to Mr Thielemans the SIOE demonstration is a criminal offence because it ?incite[s] to discrimination and hatred, which we usually call racism and xenophobia. [This] is forbidden by a considerable number of international treaties and is punished by our penal laws and by the European legislation.?

SIOE has initiated an appeal against the mayor?s ban before the Belgian Council of State. The CoS is expected to issue its verdict next week. Last week Mayor Thielemans gave permission for a demonstration in Brussels on 9 September by United for Truth (UfT), a group which claims that the terror attacks of 9/11/2001 on the WTC towers in NY and on the Pentagon were organized by the American government.

On its website UfT writes that the Brussels authorities, before giving permission for the UfT demonstration, checked that the demonstration would not address religious topics. ?The biggest issue was if there was any possible conflict [of our demonstration] with religion. As we just base ourselves on facts and political issues, we have no intention to discriminate or promote any religion.?

Yesterday the Arab-European League issued a press release emphasizing that its own demonstration on 11 September, which so far has not received the mayor?s permission (Thielemans is waiting for the advice of the police), will not criticize any religion. ?The AEL respects everyone?s religious convictions, culture and language [?]. The demand for respect for every religious conviction is the central theme [of the demonstration].? The AEL says that freedom of expression is an absolute right, stressing that the organization did not ask for the SIOE demo to be forbidden. ?However, the right to have one?s religious convictions, culture and language respected is an equally absolute right.?

The AEL was founded in Belgium in 2000. Its founder, Lebanese-born Hezbollah-member Dyab Abu Jahjah, has called the 9/11/2001 attacks ?sweet revenge.? Following the Danish cartoon affair the AEL, advocating unrestricted freedom of speech, published anti-Semitic cartoons which deny the Holocaust. Though such denial is illegal in Belgium, the Belgian authorities failed to take any action. The AEL also demands that Arabic be recognized as an official language in Belgium.

The organization says it stands for three basic demands. ?Bilingual education for Arab-speaking kids, hiring quotas that protect Muslims, and the right to keep our cultural customs.? According to Jahjah ?Assimilation is cultural rape. It means renouncing your identity, becoming like the others.? In 2002 an AEL demonstration in Antwerp led to street riots and anti-Semitic violence. The AEL wants ?the Jewish community in Antwerp to cease its support of, and distance itself from, the state of Israel. If not, attacks in Antwerp are almost unpreventable.?

Link;
Pro-Hezbollah Group Will Demonstrate in Brussels on 9/11 | The Brussels Journal
More on this topic:

Brussels Mayor Warns: 9/11 Demonstrators Are Criminals, 20 August 2007

This Demo Is NOT Being Banned, 17 August 2007

Organizers of Brussels Anti-Sharia Demo Appeal against Ban, 16 August 2007

See You in Brussels, Freddy, 15 August 2007

Thank You, Mr. Mayor: Champagne for Everyone, 13 August 2007


listen red,we know they're they're are extremists over here in Europe,but this Eurabia stuff is rubbish,islam isnt taking over Europe and we certainly don't want sharia law,you can quote snippets from papers all you want,it isnt going to happen.
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 01:43 pm
@Pinochet73,
How anyone can think that Bush and the Jews organized 9/11 is beyond me, I am guessing the average tin foiler has an IQ equivalant to a bang of nails. Brads to be exact. Hello Tin Foilers the Muslims have been airing videos where the regale in the slaughter of those innocents lives. They're killing daily in the name of Allah, how can anyone doubt these Rabid Hateful Fanatics.

Yep Eurabia is happening, a few articles? I could posts hundreds and most contain the abuse of Europians in order to pander to muslims. Sharia Law is already legal in England Scooby shame on you if you are in Scotland you'd know that. England also allows Somalian Tribal Law, one young lad killed another young lad and he was allowed to pay the family an amount equal to the value of that mans life. No jail time either. Not if Scooby but when, the Socialist/marxist also known as liberals have crawled into bed with Muslims to get elected and to stay elected. You and other ordinary people are no concern to the socialist's governments, remember Hitler's party was a socialist party. It's not that slow of a march to hardcore Communism, exspecially when the people of Europe fail to stand up and vote these commies out of office. Get rid of them before it's to late Scooby.
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 02:16 pm
@Red cv,
Red;32702 wrote:
How anyone can think that Bush and the Jews organized 9/11 is beyond me, I am guessing the average tin foiler has an IQ equivalant to a bang of nails. Brads to be exact. Hello Tin Foilers the Muslims have been airing videos where the regale in the slaughter of those innocents lives. They're killing daily in the name of Allah, how can anyone doubt these Rabid Hateful Fanatics.

Yep Eurabia is happening, a few articles? I could posts hundreds and most contain the abuse of Europians in order to pander to muslims. Sharia Law is already legal in England Scooby shame on you if you are in Scotland you'd know that. England also allows Somalian Tribal Law, one young lad killed another young lad and he was allowed to pay the family an amount equal to the value of that mans life. No jail time either. Not if Scooby but when, the Socialist/marxist also known as liberals have crawled into bed with Muslims to get elected and to stay elected. You and other ordinary people are no concern to the socialist's governments, remember Hitler's party was a socialist party. It's not that slow of a march to hardcore Communism, exspecially when the people of Europe fail to stand up and vote these commies out of office. Get rid of them before it's to late Scooby.


"Sharia law is already legal in England" who told you that ? lol that is not true !
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 02:22 pm
@Red cv,
Red;32702 wrote:
How anyone can think that Bush and the Jews organized 9/11 is beyond me, I am guessing the average tin foiler has an IQ equivalant to a bang of nails. Brads to be exact. Hello Tin Foilers the Muslims have been airing videos where the regale in the slaughter of those innocents lives. They're killing daily in the name of Allah, how can anyone doubt these Rabid Hateful Fanatics.

Yep Eurabia is happening, a few articles? I could posts hundreds and most contain the abuse of Europians in order to pander to muslims. Sharia Law is already legal in England Scooby shame on you if you are in Scotland you'd know that. England also allows Somalian Tribal Law, one young lad killed another young lad and he was allowed to pay the family an amount equal to the value of that mans life. No jail time either. Not if Scooby but when, the Socialist/marxist also known as liberals have crawled into bed with Muslims to get elected and to stay elected. You and other ordinary people are no concern to the socialist's governments, remember Hitler's party was a socialist party. It's not that slow of a march to hardcore Communism, exspecially when the people of Europe fail to stand up and vote these commies out of office. Get rid of them before it's to late Scooby.


"hitler's party was sicialist party" why because they had "soicialist in its full name lol hitler and his fascist chums were fighting communists/marxists/soicialists in the streets on the streets of germany,after he took control he sent them to concentration camps,so he certainly was not a socialist,he was an extreme nationalist !
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Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2007 06:54 am
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;32705 wrote:
"hitler's party was sicialist party" why because they had "soicialist in its full name lol hitler and his fascist chums were fighting communists/marxists/soicialists in the streets on the streets of germany,after he took control he sent them to concentration camps,so he certainly was not a socialist,he was an extreme nationalist !


excuse the spelling of socialist in my last post lol trying to do 2 things at once is not easy lol :eek:
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2007 08:44 am
RedOct;32650 wrote:
I might add that Iraq war is also contributing to an "Islamic Europe", as Iraqis flee Iraq.


Yeah....they'll be better off if we pull out, and let them slaughter each other. And they were also better off under Saddam Hussien. For example, it's always wise to torture your national soccer team when it loses.
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Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2007 12:52 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;32750 wrote:
Yeah....they'll be better off if we pull out, and let them slaughter each other. And they were also better off under Saddam Hussien. For example, it's always wise to torture your national soccer team when it loses.


the US didnt seem to bother when SADDAM was slaughtering people in the 80s !
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2007 03:05 pm
@Pinochet73,
It didn't suit us. We decide our foreign policy, not Scotland.
Red cv
 
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Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2007 04:14 pm
@Pinochet73,
Scooby really, Sharia Law is a legal system in England get your facts straight, the brits allow Muslims to handle divorce laws, custody cases, civil suits etc. So you get the facts straight.

Hitler's Party was a socialist party, you are vastly becoming someone who doens't seen to have any actual knowledge on the idiology you pretend to follow. It's common knowledge that the socialism/commies have killed more than any other idiology well excluding the Muslims they are in the for-front these days.

German courts are enforcing Sharia law contrary to the legal system, one judge was forced to quit after enforcing Sharia Law. I could post plenty of links Scooby but you seem one step removed from reality. I think you have no working or educational knowledge of what you speak.
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Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2007 05:00 pm
@Red cv,
Red;32801 wrote:
Scooby really, Sharia Law is a legal system in England get your facts straight, the brits allow Muslims to handle divorce laws, custody cases, civil suits etc. So you get the facts straight.

Hitler's Party was a socialist party, you are vastly becoming someone who doens't seen to have any actual knowledge on the idiology you pretend to follow. It's common knowledge that the socialism/commies have killed more than any other idiology well excluding the Muslims they are in the for-front these days.

German courts are enforcing Sharia law contrary to the legal system, one judge was forced to quit after enforcing Sharia Law. I could post plenty of links Scooby but you seem one step removed from reality. I think you have no working or educational knowledge of what you speak.


i think your the one that needs to get her facts straight,sharia law is not a legal system in england ! as for Hitlers party being a socialist party lol dont talk crap,after the end of WW1 hitler and his fascists were fighting the socialists/communists in the streets of germany ! hitler was not a socialist ! you talk absolute rubbish ! dont believe everthing you read :thumbup:
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2007 09:20 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;32790 wrote:
It didn't suit us. We decide our foreign policy, not Scotland.


So true. So true. Scotland is an old warrior nation-turned-Socialist pansy, just sitting out in the North Sea, defenseless, waiting to get its redhead lopped off at the shoulders by Islamic headcutters. Yeah.....it just sits there, adrift, waiting to be decapitated, like a corpse. Poor Scotland. Talk about self-delusion.
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 08:54 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;32790 wrote:
It didn't suit us. We decide our foreign policy, not Scotland.


your kidding lol here am i on this forum,thinking that scotland and i decide US foreign policy :dunno: lol
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 08:55 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;32813 wrote:
So true. So true. Scotland is an old warrior nation-turned-Socialist pansy, just sitting out in the North Sea, defenseless, waiting to get its redhead lopped off at the shoulders by Islamic headcutters. Yeah.....it just sits there, adrift, waiting to be decapitated, like a corpse. Poor Scotland. Talk about self-delusion.


pmsl brilliant stuff pino Very Happy
 

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