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Islamic Europe

 
 
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Sun 19 Aug, 2007 08:25 am
@Red cv,
Red;31799 wrote:
Europe is a festering boil that is getting ready to explode into a big ole puss storm. At least read enough material that's out there instead of spouting off text book material from grade 12. Europe is divided by racial enclaves festering with anger, the white live in white communities, the black in black communties and then there is the Islamic communities and then the Hindu. Parts of England aren't policed because the police can't police them without fear of death. The same for Germany and Belgium and France, do you watch any global news. The socialist governments don't want integration, they purposely seperate them and give the poor minority groups welfare and medical care for life on the backs of the hardworking Natives of Europe. IN order to remain in power they need to people to believe in their agenda. Things are going to get ugly if those countries don't start integration of it's immigrants and soon. A reporter in Germany is serving four years in jail for calling Abortion a crime. 9 out of ten rapes in Norway are commited by muslim males. The media doesn't report this because the government deems it "Racists" so women get ganged raped and the government doesn't deal with it because it's not a crime it's racism against the rapist. Jesus I hate socialism.

Communism also imprisons anyone who doesn't follow the communist idiology, socialism has killed more innocents than any other war. It's the stupidest idioloy there is, it doesn't work nor does socialism (infant of communism).

History has proven this idiology does not work, China uses it's army to kill those that disagree with communism. Some people in Communist China and Korea are starving to death. Children forced to work in sweat shops, how can you possibly justify this as good.


"communism also improsons anyone who follow the communist idiology," they're is no communist governments in EUROPE ! "socialism has killed more innocents than any other war" what wars are you talking about Red ?
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 19 Aug, 2007 08:05 pm
@Pinochet73,
SCOOBY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just how much of a socialist are you? Describe the severity of your Leftist convictions.
politically-wrong
 
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Reply Mon 20 Aug, 2007 03:38 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;31736 wrote:
I'm confused. You sound as if you hate America. Why would you care? In fact, following the logic you used earlier about the evils of capitalism, the very system and psychology upon which this country is founded, wouldn't it be better if we elected Osama Bin Laden to the Presidency, and gave him the keys to our nuclear missile arsenal?:frown: :frown: :frown:


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wouldn't it be better if we elected Osama Bin Laden to the Presidency, and gave him the keys to our nuclear missile arsenal?


it will be useless , if he already controls america , the nukes are useless , who is he going to strike with it?Very Happy

this kind of reminds me of the movie terminator 2 judgement day, man i just love that movie.
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scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Mon 20 Aug, 2007 08:48 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;31966 wrote:
SCOOBY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just how much of a socialist are you? Describe the severity of your Leftist convictions.


pino ! you think liberals are socialists lol you think clinton/obama/edwards are socialists ! i certainly dont,i would descibe them as social democrats like myself,in the UK the party,that i would normally vote for is the Labour party,which is the party in government now,i voted for tony blair in the 1997/2001 elections,i abstained from voting in the 2005 election,as a protest against the IRAQ WAR,the labour party used to be a socialist party,but i certainly would not call them socialist now.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 20 Aug, 2007 05:54 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;32000 wrote:
pino ! you think liberals are socialists lol you think clinton/obama/edwards are socialists ! i certainly dont,i would descibe them as social democrats like myself,in the UK the party,that i would normally vote for is the Labour party,which is the party in government now,i voted for tony blair in the 1997/2001 elections,i abstained from voting in the 2005 election,as a protest against the IRAQ WAR,the labour party used to be a socialist party,but i certainly would not call them socialist now.


Socialism sucks. It's the mentality of the weak, lazy and inept. They need to be cared for, to a limited extent, sure -- but society shouldn't be constructed entirely to support them. :FU1:
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 11:59 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;32098 wrote:
Socialism sucks. It's the mentality of the weak, lazy and inept. They need to be cared for, to a limited extent, sure -- but society shouldn't be constructed entirely to support them. :FU1:


What do you class as socialism pino !
Red cv
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 05:08 pm
@Pinochet73,
Well Hitlers party was a Socialist party as well as Moa and Stalin. Yep all socialists, now would you like more information on Socialism? Anyone? It's an idiology that believes in no seperation of state and it's people. The people are wards of the state to do with as the state pleases.

It's utter arrogance of the left to equate Social Policies to Socialism they are two seperate issues. It wasn't the most tolerant left that invented social programs (contrary to their propaganda) it was the Churches that impliment the core base for all our social programs.
markx15
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 05:21 pm
@Pinochet73,
Did you know that socialism as it was implanted was based on the chinese imperial model where the emperor (the State) owned everything, and this gave it the responsibility over the well-being of its subjects. Curious that what was supposed to be something brand new was actually a knock off.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 06:59 pm
@markx15,
markx15;32315 wrote:
Did you know that socialism as it was implanted was based on the chinese imperial model where the emperor (the State) owned everything, and this gave it the responsibility over the well-being of its subjects. Curious that what was supposed to be something brand new was actually a knock off.


Dunno if I can agree with that. Western Socialism evolved from Marxism, and Marx wasn't grounded in Eastern studies. :dunno:
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 07:02 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;32201 wrote:
What do you class as socialism pino !


Welfare statism, matched with atheism and cultural decline.
markx15
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 08:51 pm
@Pinochet73,
Well quite curiously, if you search for what subjects were forbiden by Lenin and Stalin you will see chinese history as one of them. They didn't want people to see the shortcomings of this form of government, one of them is that it is not economically viable unless you have complete consent and support of the entire population.
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scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 08:40 am
@Red cv,
Red;32310 wrote:
Well Hitlers party was a Socialist party as well as Moa and Stalin. Yep all socialists, now would you like more information on Socialism? Anyone? It's an idiology that believes in no seperation of state and it's people. The people are wards of the state to do with as the state pleases.

It's utter arrogance of the left to equate Social Policies to Socialism they are two seperate issues. It wasn't the most tolerant left that invented social programs (contrary to their propaganda) it was the Churches that impliment the core base for all our social programs.


hitler's party was not a socialist party,hitler and his followers were anti-socialist/communist,and moa and stalin were communist dictators,dont class modern day democratic socialism as anything like the people you names above !
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scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 08:45 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;32334 wrote:
Welfare statism, matched with atheism and cultural decline.


lol i thought good christians would be for a bit of welfare statism lol a national health service for example.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 09:18 am
@Pinochet73,
How much extra do you give a year for welfare and national health?
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 10:35 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;32397 wrote:
How much extra do you give a year for welfare and national health?


it depends on how much you earn !
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 06:11 pm
@Pinochet73,
So what your saying is only what they take out of your taxes? You'd make a good Christians huh? Does this explain why you are an atheist, kinda.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 07:44 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;32389 wrote:
lol i thought good christians would be for a bit of welfare statism lol a national health service for example.


Yes....I guess it's a matter of whether or not the culture and/or society in question can 'pull off' successful capitalism, which the US has done better than anyone. Unfortunately, the 'American Way' is well beyond the reach of some nations. They have to settle with what works for them. Backwardness takes its toll. :no:
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 12:02 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;32458 wrote:
So what your saying is only what they take out of your taxes? You'd make a good Christians huh? Does this explain why you are an atheist, kinda.


yes they take it out of taxes,does the US,the richest country in the world have a national health service ?
Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 12:22 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;32553 wrote:
yes they take it out of taxes,does the US,the richest country in the world have a national health service ?
So unless they take it out so you don't miss it, you probably wouldn't give anything to "welfare statism" or "national health service"? So we can consider you a bad atheist because the only reason you give is because they take it from you? I guess then even a bad Christian is better then a good atheist?
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does the US,the richest country in the world have a national health service?
What makes you think we need one? Why did your country have to enact legislation to take money from you to fund national health, why didn't you humanitarians put up the cash up front to fund such a thing if you are so gungho about national health, IMO it is because if they didn't take it form you, you wouldn't give ****. And as per your statement, i am correct in my observation.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 12:23 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;32477 wrote:
Yes....I guess it's a matter of whether or not the culture and/or society in question can 'pull off' successful capitalism, which the US has done better than anyone. Unfortunately, the 'American Way' is well beyond the reach of some nations. They have to settle with what works for them. Backwardness takes its toll. :no:


"BACKWARDNESS" i watched a programme last night pino,it was about latin america,and the disgraceful foreign policy of the US government,keeping right-wing dictators and the rich establishment in power,while the poor live in abject poverty,it also told the true story about venezuela,and how the US backed a coup,which was planned in advance,with the oppostition ( the rich establishment,military figures,and the anti-chavez media) they kidnapped him,tried to get him to resign,they swore in a new unelected government,but the people came onto the streets in support of chavez,he was released and certain members of the coup fled to the US,you talk about BACKWARDNESS,does that mean keeping the rich establishment in power and the poor in poverty,which is the case in latin america.
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