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Report: Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq

 
 
mik60487
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 10:58 am
@rex b,
Tulip during the 16th and 17th centuries in Holland bulbs of the TULIP were so highly prized that wars were fought over the opportunity to own them. As a matter of fact an economic bubble burst resulting in a severe depression.
Tulip cv
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 11:07 am
@mik60487,
And your point is????
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mik60487
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 04:46 pm
@rex b,
Economies are the darntest thing to paraphrase Art Linkletter. They can be spun up or down often on perception of things that may be or not. Our esteemeddesinatee for the SEC. of DEFENSE stated today that we are losing the War this should not come as a Revelation to many! Nations historically have not won every War and still managed to survive but prosper afterward.
When Great Britain left the American shore Clive of India found a different jewel to fit the Crown so despair is definately not in order.
Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 04:58 am
@mik60487,
mik60487;7882 wrote:
.... Our esteemeddesinatee for the SEC. of DEFENSE stated today that we are losing the War this should not come as a Revelation to many! .



Context , context !! - Here is what he really said :
"Asked by Democratic Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan if the United States was winning in Iraq, Gates replied: "No, sir."

He later said he believed the US was not losing either "at this point."
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 06:23 am
@Curmudgeon,
So there is a new definition of winning now.:wtf:

We aren't winning and we aren't losing.Very Happy Very Happy

We are losing any way you look at it. We lost the first day Bush took office.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 07:30 am
@rex b,
We lost the first day clinton past on Osama, and the second and the third time as well.
Nice to see you have such confidence in our troops. And i thought you supported them, sheesh.
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 07:38 am
@Drnaline,
So now Clinton is running the war.Very Happy Very Happy
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 07:40 am
@rex b,
Clinton running any kind of war is absurd. Unless your a political enemy in which case the FBI or the CIA might be prying or using survalence on you.
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 08:03 am
@Drnaline,
So what does any of this have to do with WMDs?:wtf:
Tulip cv
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 08:57 am
@tumbleweed cv,
Thank-you for pointing that out Curmongeon, l think Mil60487 is so wrapped up in trying to appear wise with confused historical referances he is twisted up in confusion...

The war has not been lost at all, in fact government is in place and order is being restored, the problem is that we are a generation and a society which expects everything to happen quickly and easily---the entitlement factor. History has proved that peace and freedom are not simply privileges that happen, they come at a cost, and the cost is not easy and it is not a quick fix.

The Hope was that this was an easy fix that could just be found by showing it was the governments fault, however it has been proven that the situation is very serious, just as the threat is very serious. It is not that we are winning or losing, it is that we are in the process of changing the roadmap for the middle-easts future that will effect the world. I don't think people grasp the enormity of the issues and how the situation is interwoven into the make-up of the entire world.

The effort to make such a lasting change comes at a price, and the price is not a quick fix or a bargain. It requires effort and time and sacrific.

I wish l could do more, because l do realize the enormity of this task and how vital it is for a lasting and solid world peace.

It is this false propaganda that is spread around that is food for the terrorists and those that sympathize. It is an enemy targeted to play with the psychological discouragement that will undermine the troops stationed in the Middle-East, and it is those who pass on this stupid false nonsense that are in bed with the dispicable Fantatic Hezzbollah, Hamas, Al Queda etc.

The effort is gaining ground, and pushing out the terrorists like vermin from a den...it is just at a cost, but it is a huge operation and one in which the world will be forever changed to a peaceful and free world. There is really no choice, war was declared on us of the NATO alliance.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 02:41 pm
@tumbleweed cv,
tumbleweed;7940 wrote:
So what does any of this have to do with WMDs?:wtf:
Clinton thought they had them too.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 02:44 pm
@Tulip cv,
Tulip;7952 wrote:
Thank-you for pointing that out Curmongeon, l think Mil60487 is so wrapped up in trying to appear wise with confused historical referances he is twisted up in confusion...

The war has not been lost at all, in fact government is in place and order is being restored, the problem is that we are a generation and a society which expects everything to happen quickly and easily---the entitlement factor. History has proved that peace and freedom are not simply privileges that happen, they come at a cost, and the cost is not easy and it is not a quick fix.

The Hope was that this was an easy fix that could just be found by showing it was the governments fault, however it has been proven that the situation is very serious, just as the threat is very serious. It is not that we are winning or losing, it is that we are in the process of changing the roadmap for the middle-easts future that will effect the world. I don't think people grasp the enormity of the issues and how the situation is interwoven into the make-up of the entire world.

The effort to make such a lasting change comes at a price, and the price is not a quick fix or a bargain. It requires effort and time and sacrific.

I wish l could do more, because l do realize the enormity of this task and how vital it is for a lasting and solid world peace.

It is this false propaganda that is spread around that is food for the terrorists and those that sympathize. It is an enemy targeted to play with the psychological discouragement that will undermine the troops stationed in the Middle-East, and it is those who pass on this stupid false nonsense that are in bed with the dispicable Fantatic Hezzbollah, Hamas, Al Queda etc.

The effort is gaining ground, and pushing out the terrorists like vermin from a den...it is just at a cost, but it is a huge operation and one in which the world will be forever changed to a peaceful and free world. There is really no choice, war was declared on us of the NATO alliance.
Agreed
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tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 02:48 pm
@Drnaline,
We knew they had them. There isn't any evidence I've seen that they were planning to use them against us.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 02:54 pm
@rex b,
Doe it matter who they were gonna use them on?
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 02:58 pm
@Drnaline,
It does if we used that as an excuse to invade Iraq.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 02:59 pm
@rex b,
Would we be justified if they were gonna use it on an ally?
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 03:04 pm
@Drnaline,
If the ally had the means to defend itself, no.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 03:05 pm
@tumbleweed cv,
tumbleweed;7976 wrote:
If the ally had the means to defend itself, no.

What if we were downwind?
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 03:06 pm
@Drnaline,
Where are you talking about?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 03:09 pm
@rex b,
Canada or Mexico. What i get is that even if lets say Iran was gonna nuke isreal or any other country, to you we still would not be justified? Or is that an entirely different situation?
 

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