@tumbleweed cv,
Thank-you for pointing that out Curmongeon, l think Mil60487 is so wrapped up in trying to appear wise with confused historical referances he is twisted up in confusion...
The war has not been lost at all, in fact government is in place and order is being restored, the problem is that we are a generation and a society which expects everything to happen quickly and easily---the entitlement factor. History has proved that peace and freedom are not simply privileges that happen, they come at a cost, and the cost is not easy and it is not a quick fix.
The Hope was that this was an easy fix that could just be found by showing it was the governments fault, however it has been proven that the situation is very serious, just as the threat is very serious. It is not that we are winning or losing, it is that we are in the process of changing the roadmap for the middle-easts future that will effect the world. I don't think people grasp the enormity of the issues and how the situation is interwoven into the make-up of the entire world.
The effort to make such a lasting change comes at a price, and the price is not a quick fix or a bargain. It requires effort and time and sacrific.
I wish l could do more, because l do realize the enormity of this task and how vital it is for a lasting and solid world peace.
It is this false propaganda that is spread around that is food for the terrorists and those that sympathize. It is an enemy targeted to play with the psychological discouragement that will undermine the troops stationed in the Middle-East, and it is those who pass on this stupid false nonsense that are in bed with the dispicable Fantatic Hezzbollah, Hamas, Al Queda etc.
The effort is gaining ground, and pushing out the terrorists like vermin from a den...it is just at a cost, but it is a huge operation and one in which the world will be forever changed to a peaceful and free world. There is really no choice, war was declared on us of the NATO alliance.