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Poll: What are your thoughts about the new super-Venus that was discovered?

 
 
Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2025 07:56 pm
Hi As of the time of the making of this post I found an article about a NEW super-Venus that was discovered:

https://www.earth.com/news/new-planet-named-enaiposha-is-unlike-anything-in-our-solar-system/

,What are your thoughts about this new planet?

Please help. Thank you.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2025 09:59 pm
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

Hi As of the time of the making of this post I found an article about a NEW super-Venus that was discovered:

https://www.earth.com/news/new-planet-named-enaiposha-is-unlike-anything-in-our-solar-system/

What are your thoughts about this new planet?

Please help. Thank you.


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The Anointed
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2025 10:48 pm
@JGoldman10,
Seeing that Enaiposha doesn't exist in our Solar system and I very much doubt that we will ever get any sort of space vehicle to pass through the Oort's cloud, the dome of ice and debris that surrounds our solar system, it really doesn't concern me at all.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2025 11:49 pm
@JGoldman10,
Sorry J, I'm usually thick-headed about these topics. I'd have to do some research before I could even venture an opinion. I bet there are a number of members who will be able to answer your query.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2025 12:14 am
@The Anointed,
You reminded me of that diamond planet that was discovered back in 2004:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/55_Cancri_e

What's stopping NASA from exploring this planet?
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2025 04:31 am
@JGoldman10,
It's an "exoplanet", not in 0ur solar system. NASA has no way ofexploring the planet other than using spectral analysis.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2025 07:29 am
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

You reminded me of that diamond planet that was discovered back in 2004:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/55_Cancri_e

What's stopping NASA from exploring this planet?

Do you mean the planet that's 40 light years away!?
The Anointed
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2025 08:58 pm
@tsarstepan,
If Enaiposha is said to be 40 Light Years away and considering that the Oort cloud, which is a spherical cloud that surrounds our solar system, like a bubble with a thick shell, which is made up of comets and icy pieces of space debris is said to be 1-3 Light years from the sun. Then even with the technology we foresee mankind creating in the future, it’s more than improbable that we will ever get anywhere near it.

https://science.nasa.gov/solar-system/oort-cloud/

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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2025 02:02 am
Here's a link to another site about the super-Venus which popped up on my phone:

https://www.earth.com/news/new-planet-named-enaiposha-is-unlike-anything-in-our-solar-system/
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2025 02:08 am
@tsarstepan,
If NASA was actually able to explore and mine 55 Cancri e then I think diamonds from this planet would help solve a LOT of the world's problems.

The space diamonds would be VERY valuable.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2025 08:52 am
@JGoldman10,
If the moon was made of cheese we'd all have plenty to eat.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2025 09:04 am
@izzythepush,
The Moon IS made of green cheese!
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2025 11:07 am
@JGoldman10,
Quote:
If NASA was actually able to explore and mine 55 Cancri e then I think diamonds from this planet would help solve a LOT of the world's problems.

If humans possessed the technology to operate a mine nearly 6 trillion miles from earth I think it's safe to say that a LOT of the world's problems would have already been solved.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2025 11:24 am
@JGoldman10,
The Voyagers were launched in 1977, and they only left the outer reaches of the solar system in 2024.

By the time they reach another solar system, both you and I will be long dead, (you especially.)
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2025 01:59 pm
@JGoldman10,
How would a load of diamonds help Earth?

Just think about it.

Let's say for sake of argument it's feasable, some inventor makes an engine that can do it in a reasonable amount of time.

No doubt that person would be very rich, but what then?

Elon Musk is very rich, and he's not eager to share his wealth, the opposite in fact.

Why would your space diamond guy be any different?

Look at the overall result, which would be the diamond market crashing, making diamonds more affordable.

But what good is that?

Will you tell the starving person he can't have any food, but he can have some worthless diamonds so at least he can die glitzy.

Diamonds have limited industrial uses, mostly in cutting and drilling, but overall they're decorative.

What would help mankind is a plant that grows like a weed anywhere on Earth, with little to no attention, which provides tasty nutritonal meals, something with all the vitamins and trace elements as well as protein carbohydrates and fat.

A cheap (free) ready available food source that one can live off without need for anything else.

Why don't you ask the starving person in the last scenario what they would prefer?
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The Anointed
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2025 05:03 pm
@izzythepush,
When will the Voyagers, which were launched in 1977, leave the outer reaches of the solar system?

The Oort cloud, or the Opik-Oort cloud, which is named after Jan Oort, is a spherical cloud that surrounds our solar system, a cloud of predominantly icy objects such as comets that are comprised of mainly hydrogen, oxygen=water, ammonia and methane, and extends up to about a light year from the sun and defines the cosmographical boundary of our Solar System and the region of the suns gravitational dominance.

Even traveling at 35,000 mph, the Voyager probes will need another 300 years just to reach the inner edge of the Oort Cloud — a large sphere of icy space rocks that begins a couple of thousand times farther from the Sun than Earth.

The Oort Cloud is the most distant region in our solar system, and it's jaw-droppingly far away, extending perhaps one-quarter to halfway from our Sun to the next star.

To appreciate the distance to the Oort Cloud, it’s helpful to set aside miles and kilometers and instead use the astronomical unit, or AU — a unit defined as the distance between Earth and the Sun, with 1 AU being roughly 93 million miles or 150 million kilometers.

For comparison, Pluto’s more elliptical orbit carries it between about 30 and 50 astronomical units from the Sun. The inner edge of the Oort Cloud, however, is thought to be located between 2,000 and 5,000 AU from the Sun, with the outer edge being located somewhere between 10,000 and 100,000 AU from the Sun.

If those distances are difficult to visualize, you can instead use time as your ruler. At its current speed of about a million miles a day, NASA's Voyager 1 spacecraft won't enter the Oort Cloud for about 300 years. And it won’t exit the outer edge of the bubble for maybe 30,000 years. (GET THE FACTS)

https://science.nasa.gov/solar-system/oort-cloud/
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2025 05:29 pm
@The Anointed,
To be honest I don't think I'll be around in 30,000 years.

That counts as a fact in most people's understanding of the term, but you probably put facts in the same category as unicorns, willo the wisps and Ceramic Ken.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2025 10:08 pm
@izzythepush,
The FIRMAMENT or great dome, (Oort’s cloud) in which the heavenly bodies of our solar system are located, was created, when the condensing Solar Nebular or proto-sun, because of its great compression, finally reached about 10 million Kelvin and after the planets of the solar system had been created, the hydrogen nuclei started fusing together to produce helium nuclei and a lot of energy. It was then that the proto-Sun "TURNED ON" and became our Sun, which produced the strong winds called T-Tauri winds named after the prototype star in the constellation Taurus.

These winds swept out the rest of the nebula that was not already incorporated into the planets. With most of the cocoon gas blown away, the new star itself became visible to the outside for the first time. This whole process took just a few hundred million years and was finished by about 4.6 billion years ago.

I was this great cocoon of gas that was swept away by the T-Tauri winds, which at the distance of about one light year from our sun, became the great icy Dome, that is the boundary of the firmament of our heavens, in which the sun, moon, and planets of our solar system were created.

The Oort cloud, or the Opik-Oort cloud, which is named after Jan Oort, is a spherical cloud that surrounds our solar system, a cloud of predominantly icy objects such as comets that are comprised of mainly hydrogen, oxygen=water, ammonia and methane, and extends up to about a light year from the sun and defines the cosmographical boundary of our Solar System and the region of the suns gravitational dominance.

But if I have offended someone here, this might be the last post in this thread.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2025 01:34 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

The Moon IS made of green cheese!



No it's not, my grandmother explained it to me.
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