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Is there a god?

 
 
Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 12:17 pm
@GeeWBushinator,
GeeWBushinator;8726 wrote:
Ummm...no...stupid is believing in fairy tales as told by child molesting war-mongering men masquerading as speaking for some invisible overlord of all things. Now that seems quite unintelligent to me.
When you were a kid, how many fairytails did you believe in? Were you so stupid?
GeeWBushinator
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 12:21 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;8735 wrote:
Prove it, or is it just your opinion? If you have no proof of this, where did you read the fairytail in your head?

[SIZE="2"]Prove otherwise, without quoting fairy tale bible stories. "I read it in a book, therefore it must be true"...well I read Hustler, it does not mean the boobs are real.[/SIZE]

Where is the proof you said is there? All i see is speculation. How do you know that saving them did not mean taking them and there pain?
Would not a just, loving father want what is best for his children? Ever hear of a dad that wanted his kids dead to save them? I've never

Whens the last time you questioned a politician?
Yesterday, about my garbage pickup, and you?
Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 12:24 pm
@GeeWBushinator,
GeeWBushinator;8728 wrote:
[SIZE="2"]1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs. Sounds aweful to be liberal.
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One of your other quotes fits this nicely.

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Texts written by men, witnessed by men. Hmmmmmmm...sounds fishy

It would be another thing if you actually believed in the definition you provided. What are the chances of you proving that, LOL.
GeeWBushinator
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 12:24 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;8740 wrote:
When you were a kid, how many fairytails did you believe in? Were you so stupid?


Children do not know better until they are manipulated by adults, so the fairy tales I believed in were the ones preached by the people I trusted. There is no Santa, no Easter Bunny, and no God. Just various wonderful stories to stimulate the imagination.
GeeWBushinator
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 12:25 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;8742 wrote:
One of your other quotes fits this nicely.


It would be another thing if you actually believed in the definition you provided. What are the chances of you proving that, LOL.


7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 12:38 pm
@GeeWBushinator,
GeeWBushinator;8741 wrote:
Yesterday, about my garbage pickup, and you?
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Prove otherwise, without quoting fairy tale bible stories. "I read it in a book, therefore it must be true"...well I read Hustler, it does not mean the boobs are real.

I asked you first. You made the accusation. "The "Bible" was a tool invented by the privileged rich, to control the masses."
Prove your accusation is true if you think you can?
As far as hustler, sounds like your looking at the pics instead of reading?
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Would not a just, loving father want what is best for his children?

Yes, including discipline. But as we all know wanting and getting are two different things.
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Ever hear of a dad that wanted his kids dead to save them? I've never


Where did you hear that? Got a link?
GeeWBushinator
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 12:47 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;8746 wrote:
I asked you first. You made the accusation. "The "Bible" was a tool invented by the privileged rich, to control the masses."
Prove your accusation is true if you think you can? Catholic church is run by white men, for white men. Richest organization in the world is? That's right the Catholic church. Rich white men. Who are the most quoted relgious leaders? Catholic Popes, who are rich white men.
As far as hustler, sounds like your looking at the pics instead of reading? I like pictures. A picture is worth a thousand words, so to speak.

Yes, including discipline. But as we all know wanting and getting are two different things.

Where did you hear that? Got a link?
Yep, me. I'm a dad. I don't want my kids dead to "save them". Proof enough fro me.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 01:01 pm
@GeeWBushinator,
GeeWBushinator;8743 wrote:
Children do not know better until they are manipulated by adults, so the fairy tales I believed in were the ones preached by the people I trusted. There is no Santa, no Easter Bunny, and no God. Just various wonderful stories to stimulate the imagination.
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Children do not know better until they are manipulated by adults, so the fairy tales I believed in were the ones preached by the people I trusted.

Using your own words that would make you "stupid."
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stupid is believing in fairy tales as told by child molesting war-mongering men masquerading as speaking for some invisible overlord of all things.
So your either claiming to be "stupid" or your calling your parents "child molesting war-mongering men masquerading?" They did teach and you did believe in fairytails right?
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There is no Santa, no Easter Bunny, and no God.
You may be able to prove the first two don't exist but i think you'll have trouble with the last one.
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Just various wonderful stories to stimulate the imagination.

Of some very "stupid" people. Glad to know your included.
GeeWBushinator
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 01:07 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;8750 wrote:
Using your own words that would make you "stupid."
So your either claiming to be "stupid" or your calling your parents "child molesting war-mongering men masquerading?" They did teach and you did believe in fairytails right? Before becoming adults with their own thoughts and ideals, all children listen to their elders out of a respect that has not been squashed yet in their lives. Twisting words is a political ploy. You don't happen to be rePuglican, do you? They are pros at that.
You may be able to prove the first two don't exist but i think you'll have trouble with the last one.No I won't. Men far more intelligent have tried for a thousand years to prove a god existed, but failed. So they now say, "cuz it says so in this here book" as a response to all questions. Why? Because it is BS.

Of some very "stupid" people. Glad to know your included.
Darn it all. I was hoping from reading your posts that you were intelligent. Guess I was wrong. I've never known anyone that could know the intelligence of people on a message board, just by posting. You must be a God or something. Perhaps I'll write a book about you.
z0z0
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 01:08 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline - where has I EVER said that I believe in "God"? I have put forward for proposals for what "God" might be but I do not think I have ever said that I believe in the proposed deity you call "God".

The onus should be on YOU to prove that God exists and that the Bible is the word of God. Until you can prove that then the Bible is nothing more than a fairy tale and God is nothing but a myth.

You gained your faith from your parents and they from theirs. So that whole family line has lived a life of delusion.


DELUSION: A delusion is commonly defined as a fixed false belief and is used in everyday language to describe a belief that is either false, fanciful or derived from deception. In psychiatry, the definition is necessarily more precise and implies that the belief is pathological (the result of an illness or illness process).
Delusion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The only reason this delusion is not classified as "bad" is because it is a widespread mass delusion that a lot of society has accepted in order to created meaning and value in life where there is none.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 01:13 pm
@GeeWBushinator,
GeeWBushinator;8749 wrote:
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Originally stated by Drnaline
I asked you first. You made the accusation. "The "Bible" was a tool invented by the privileged rich, to control the masses."
Prove your accusation is true if you think you can? Catholic church is run by white men, for white men. Richest organization in the world is? That's right the Catholic church. Rich white men. Who are the most quoted relgious leaders? Catholic Popes, who are rich white men.
As far as hustler, sounds like your looking at the pics instead of reading? I like pictures. A picture is worth a thousand words, so to speak.

Yes, including discipline. But as we all know wanting and getting are two different things.

Where did you hear that? Got a link?
Yep, me. I'm a dad. I don't want my kids dead to "save them". Proof enough fro me.

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Catholic church is run by white men, for white men. Richest organization in the world is? That's right the Catholic church. Rich white men. Who are the most quoted relgious leaders?

Now all you need is to prove it was a conspiracy? You know, people actually conspriring the accusation you speak of? Got such proof? I think what we have is a conspiracy from a person who wish's what his texts read, were true.

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Yep, me. I'm a dad. I don't want my kids dead to "save them". Proof enough fro me.

Would you want yourself dead to save them?
GeeWBushinator
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 01:13 pm
@z0z0,
z0z0;8752 wrote:
Drnaline - where has I EVER said that I believe in "God"? I have put forward for proposals for what "God" might be but I do not think I have ever said that I believe in the proposed deity you call "God".

The onus should be on YOU to prove that God exists and that the Bible is the word of God. Until you can prove that then the Bible is nothing more than a fairy tale and God is nothing but a myth.

You gained your faith from your parents and they from theirs. So that whole family line has lived a life of delusion.


DELUSION: A delusion is commonly defined as a fixed false belief and is used in everyday language to describe a belief that is either false, fanciful or derived from deception. In psychiatry, the definition is necessarily more precise and implies that the belief is pathological (the result of an illness or illness process).
Delusion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The only reason this delusion is not classified as "bad" is because it is a widespread mass delusion that a lot of society has accepted in order to created meaning and value in life where there is none.


I agree. But you will not get these so called believers in God to bite that challenge, because they can't, so they'll throw at you, "prove he/she doesnt' exist" continually.
GeeWBushinator
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 01:17 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;8754 wrote:
Now all you need is to prove it was a conspiracy? You know, people actually conspriring the accusation you speak of? Got such proof? I think what we have is a conspiracy from a person who wish's what his texts read, were true.Sure do have proof. Do these "men of the cloth" not threaten continually with suffering in hell if you don't follow the "good book"?


Would you want yourself dead to save them?
Yep, but that isn't the text you were speaking of. You said children need discipline. Killing them is not discipline.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 01:46 pm
@GeeWBushinator,
GeeWBushinator;8751 wrote:
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Originally stated by Drnaline
Using your own words that would make you "stupid."
So your either claiming to be "stupid" or your calling your parents "child molesting war-mongering men masquerading?" They did teach and you did believe in fairytails right? Before becoming adults with their own thoughts and ideals, all children listen to their elders out of a respect that has not been squashed yet in their lives. Twisting words is a political ploy. You don't happen to be rePuglican, do you? They are pros at that.
You may be able to prove the first two don't exist but i think you'll have trouble with the last one.No I won't. Men far more intelligent have tried for a thousand years to prove a god existed, but failed. So they now say, "cuz it says so in this here book" as a response to all questions. Why? Because it is BS.

Of some very "stupid" people. Glad to know your included.
Darn it all. I was hoping from reading your posts that you were intelligent. Guess I was wrong. I've never known anyone that could know the intelligence of people on a message board, just by posting. You must be a God or something. Perhaps I'll write a book about you.

It didn't take long to get to you did it? Do i offend you? Is your post a good example of your openminded tolerence?

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Before becoming adults with their own thoughts and ideals, all children listen to their elders out of a respect that has not been squashed yet in their lives.
I think they have thoughts and ideals way before there adults. All children do not listen to there elders.
Why do you assume we are stupid for believing in what you see as fairytails. Yet your parents and even you probably are in fact are deceiving your own children with those same fairytails?
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Twisting words is a political ploy.

Accusing some one of twisting words is also a political ploy. Please post in quote where you think i twisted your words?
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You don't happen to be rePuglican, do you? They are pros at that.

Conservative which falls under repug at this time. Liberals wish they could call themselves pros at accusations but they always fall short in the proof catagory.

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No I won't. Men far more intelligent have tried for a thousand years to prove a god existed, but failed.

So humanity's failure creats a fact to you? Strange logic.
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So they now say, "cuz it says so in this here book" as a response to all questions.

Who says? The "Men far more intelligent?"
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Darn it all. I was hoping from reading your posts that you were intelligent. Guess I was wrong. I've never known anyone that could know the intelligence of people on a message board, just by posting.
Do you realise what you just did? Don't you mean to say that you've never known any one but yourself that can tell the intellegence of some one by there posts? Isn't that what you just did, used somebodys post to tell there intellegence? You know what an oxymoron is?
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You must be a God or something.

Hadn't you heard, Z0z0 is the "New Messiah!"
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Perhaps I'll write a book about you

Don't you mean a fairytail, LOL.
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z0z0
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 02:00 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline - one of my basic assumptions about discussing things in forums is that people know how to read and how to understand what they read. If you do not know how to read and understand what is written here then how can we assume that you know how to read and understand the Bible?

Can you show me where I stated that I AM a Messiah?

My first post stated the following:

    "If I have this message for mankind, how can I determine whether I am a Modern Messiah? Or am I just a Nut Case?" Would I have to prove my nature by showing you miracles? Or would you believe me based on faith?


Can you please retract your idiotic statement - which you have repeated a few times now.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 02:24 pm
@z0z0,
z0z0;8752 wrote:
Drnaline - where has I EVER said that I believe in "God"? I have put forward for proposals for what "God" might be but I do not think I have ever said that I believe in the proposed deity you call "God".

The onus should be on YOU to prove that God exists and that the Bible is the word of God. Until you can prove that then the Bible is nothing more than a fairy tale and God is nothing but a myth.

You gained your faith from your parents and they from theirs. So that whole family line has lived a life of delusion.


DELUSION: A delusion is commonly defined as a fixed false belief and is used in everyday language to describe a belief that is either false, fanciful or derived from deception. In psychiatry, the definition is necessarily more precise and implies that the belief is pathological (the result of an illness or illness process).
Delusion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The only reason this delusion is not classified as "bad" is because it is a widespread mass delusion that a lot of society has accepted in order to created meaning and value in life where there is none.
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Drnaline - where has I EVER said that I believe in "God"? I have put forward for proposals for what "God" might be but I do not think I have ever said that I believe in the proposed deity you call "God".


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While the true meaning of the Christian Christmas has been eroded over time into Commercialism - we still celebrate the truth of Christmas.
http://www.conflictingviews.com/t802#post8460

Saying "we" seems to include you. And what would that truth be?
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Either way God is a psychologically sick person.

God don't exist but if he did he would be a sick person?
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The onus should be on YOU to prove that God exists and that the Bible is the word of God. Until you can prove that then the Bible is nothing more than a fairy tale and God is nothing but a myth.


The burden of proof is with the disbelievers. Intellegents have been trying to do so for thousands of years didn't you hear? And as GeeW has admitted, we all believe in fairytails. God, myth? Is that any way for the "New Messiah" to act? You are the messiah or were you the nutcase?
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You gained your faith from your parents and they from theirs. So that whole family line has lived a life of delusion.

So which fairytail was your favorite as a "stupid" kid? Are your parents athiests? Grandparents? What delusion was handed down your family line?
Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 02:29 pm
@GeeWBushinator,
GeeWBushinator;8755 wrote:
I agree. But you will not get these so called believers in God to bite that challenge,
I cannot do one as you will never be able to do the other. Aren't you a so called believer of his not being?
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because they can't, so they'll throw at you, "prove he/she doesnt' exist" continually.
and of those many times being asked, how many times have you proven that there is no God?
Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 02:36 pm
@GeeWBushinator,
GeeWBushinator;8756 wrote:
Yep, but that isn't the text you were speaking of. You said children need discipline. Killing them is not discipline.
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Sure do have proof. Do these "men of the cloth" not threaten continually with suffering in hell if you don't follow the "good book"?



Yup, you have proof of people quoting scripture, what you have not proven is a conspriracy.
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Yep, but that isn't the text you were speaking of. You said children need discipline. Killing them is not discipline.

Who said killing them is? I asked once before where you got that idea?
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z0z0
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 02:47 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;8761 wrote:
Saying "we" seems to include you. And what would that truth be?

God don't exist but if he did he would be a sick person?

The burden of proof is with the disbelievers. Intellegents have been trying to do so for thousands of years didn't you hear? And as GeeW has admitted, we all believe in fairytails. God, myth? Is that any way for the "New Messiah" to act? You are the messiah or were you the nutcase?


I use the term "WE" as a collective for society.

Yes "IF" is the operative term

No - the burden of proof is with the "Believers". As with any proof you have to show that it is true. Just think of the scientific process or logic. Not being able to prove non-existance should not be the foundation of a religion. Following your logic one can state that there are TWO GODS - Jaweh and Lucifer - each one with a certain philosophy - neither one good or bad. Jaweh tries to paint Lucifer as a bad guy and Lucifer tries to pain Jaweh as the bad guy. Believing in Lucifer is just as valid as believing in Jaweh. Prove that this is not true. Next - if you can't prove to me that the Purple Spaghetti Monster does not exist would you be willing to believe and worship it?

You still have not shown me where I stated that I AM a Messiah. You continue to misquote me and play semantic games.

Your comments here show (and I really do not like to do this) that you might not be very intelligent. To put it on a "common-man level" - will will speculate that you may be a "f*cking retard".

If there are such retards in America then there is no wonder there are retards in less developed parts of the world.
USA All The Way
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 02:59 pm
@Drnaline,
after all dis here hokus pokus stuff dat wasa said here, yu muss really ask yer selfes dis questshun,,,What if there is?? What if GOD really existes and I missed da boat!!!

HUMM i woodnts wanna mess wit dat, woods yu.:beat:
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