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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 09:15 am
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:

Negative. Will keep my eyes open if it occurs in other situations.

Ha! That one had a NEW flag attached to it for me.

And I think I know how it happened. Two of the tabs in my browser have an A2K page open. I posted the new post in one and refreshed "My Posts" in the other. Maybe that's it.
sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 09:18 am
@Thomas,
Of course! Smile

Weird, not something I've seen so far. Must be a bug if it's inconsistent.
Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 09:19 am
@sozobe,
I updated my post while you were responding to it. Did you catch the update?
DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 09:20 am
@sozobe,
I have seen the "new" tag for my own replies, but it happens intermittently and infrequently. Usually, a thread to which I've replied is below all of the new stuff.

Perhaps someone else is replying to the thread in close proximity? Someone else replied and then deleted their response?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 09:20 am
@Thomas,
I did not catch the update. That makes sense.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 09:21 am
@sozobe,
Testing that theory.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 09:22 am
@DrewDad,
Nope. Other tab displayed it correctly.
Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 09:41 am
On a different note, I have two points about the companion poll thread:

1) Re-design: Is there a screenshot based on which we can vote it up or down?

2) Improved PMs: The basic PM design works for me. I wouldn't suggest any more than an incremental fix: make the new-PM editor the same as the new-Post editor, so that it includes a BBCode editor and a preview. I suspect that for that purpose, you could just reuse code you're already using anyway. Other than that, I'm fine with the status quo.
Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 09:42 am
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:
Nope. Other tab displayed it correctly.

Hmmm ... differences in our browsers' caching?
DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 09:50 am
@Thomas,
Could be. I'm running Firefox 3.6.6.
Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 10:19 am
@DrewDad,
Firefox 3.5.10 on Fedora Linux 12
JPB
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 11:45 am
@Thomas,
I just had a post show up as NEW when I was the last poster. I have no idea what I did differently on this post vs any other post I made this morning.

FIrefox 3.6.6
DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 12:12 pm
@JPB,
OK, I just replicated it by replying to a thread, and then immediately hitting "new posts".

Probably just an artifact of how Robert wrote the software.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/DrewDad/a2k-new_posts.png
sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 02:17 pm
@DrewDad,
Ooh screenshot! Awesome.

By "immediately hitting 'new posts'" do you mean that you don't even wait for your response to load? As in, do you see your response in the thread before you hit "new posts"?

Edit: a-ha. I made the "new" appear if I didn't let the post load/ I never saw it on the thread, I just hit "new posts" IMMEDIATELY" after "submit." That seems to make sense though. (Even though I wrote it I haven't read it.)
DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 02:28 pm
@sozobe,
Actually, I let my reply load first, then scrolled up and clicked "New Posts".

Doesn't happen every time, just sometimes.
sozobe
 
  1  
Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 02:30 pm
@DrewDad,
Huh. Sure sounds buggy then.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 02:32 pm
@sozobe,
Maybe not buggy, just engineering trade-offs for performance/usability vs. processing power, database size, physical disk access, etc.
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 03:36 pm
@Thomas,
I've seen the my own post new issue only once, I'm not sure what causes it (we may actually need to slow the program down to fix it, I wonder if the thread is being marked read at the very same timestamp of the post sometimes) but it's very rare.

As for including ignore into the read tracking I am not sure if this is desirable. They may be ignored but the topic is still new, and others may want the new to be what it says on the tin. Also, what if the last post was a user ignored but the previous ones (also new) weren't? That becomes a very expensive calculation, no longer allowing us to use our db indexes and well, put it this way: it's an unlikely feature because it's very non-trivial and has high potential for confusion.
Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 03:50 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Fair enough, it was just an idea. I had a feeling it might be expensive in runtime.
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 04:39 pm
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:
1) Re-design: Is there a screenshot based on which we can vote it up or down?


No, the project is to develop the design.

Quote:
2) Improved PMs: The basic PM design works for me. I wouldn't suggest any more than an incremental fix: make the new-PM editor the same as the new-Post editor, so that it includes a BBCode editor and a preview. I suspect that for that purpose, you could just reuse code you're already using anyway. Other than that, I'm fine with the status quo.


Well there are some serious issues for heavy users, related to pruning and their inability to manage that at all (e.g. they are having messages they want pruned and have no ability to delete the ones they don't want) so we'll at least need to do that.
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