DOES NOTHING EXIST???

is it acceptable to believe in a nothing. I don't know.

Keep in mind that "nothing" is an idea.

so is 'somehow'

Yes, and of course so is "idea."

so is idea? it's not though-it's not idea. it's somehow.

Ah see, I am told that ideals do not exist as nature in the Forms theory, they are not ideas; ideals are what gives us the ability to talk over ideas and forms in a just world.

An experiment to see what nothing, concept of, is is to place a stale petrie in the sun, and see what occurs.

Ideals is a man made concept without much in terms of theory. The reason is that at one time, humans ate other humans - and that was an 'ideal' for those people.

What happens within human activity is 'natural.' Some find it difficult that homosexuals are 'normal.'

I wonder if virgins are a nothing in Evolution. Virgins are from the nothing, when evolution is true.

Evolution is not true though, pragmatics only. Just saying though-you brought it up-if that's normal then posit a nothing for a virgin. How?

Sex is the natural product of evolution. Have you never heard of the 'birds and the bees?' LOL

"natural product of evolution" unlike me. lol; I'm basically King Tut.

That's what I've been saying; something similar, that a clone would be abhorrent in nature. Where did I write that problem?

There have always been virgins meanwhile. They are to Evolution like a nothing, if there was a nothing in evolution, they come from where and go to where, to nothing because chastity is biological too right? Then there must be a nothing in Evolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestal_Virgin

Having chaste willing to help aunt's is not "nothing" to evolution. Families exist for the same reason, as social species are the product of natural selection. Going a step further on what "family" addresses to, we help people from the same genotype and cultural background on the same ruling principle. They are a sort of distant "relatives" to an extent.
In any case...(and more abstractly) Nothing is less then silence !

Yes, sinners are nothing. We don't want them, we don't know them, they are not moral, we don't love them, etc. they are nothing.

Then, why are you existing?

I'm a lover, man.

Fil, MWal,

Sinners vs. Virgins in Evolution? I think virgins are nothing. Clones are something like that too.

Do virgins evolve? Though? Lol.

No!!!!!!! There's basically a sin-friend relationship, where it's the opposite of what you pointed out, by accident; sin-acquaintance.

Well what are sins? Maybe you're thinking of murder but sins are as follows:

gluttony
aspirations/ambitions I mean
competition
greed
envy

These are sins too; these are just lesser sins.

My point was just a simple remark to the underlying flawed logic in the reasoning regarding Neo-Darwinism theory, it has nothing to do with "sinners" vs "saints"...if anything sinners make a far more interesting type of people. Hope that clears things up.

yea I'm talking to MWAL on that point; they evolve; they don't get kicked out. It's sort of a religious point that theologians make.

Clones are nothing too.

Nothing cannot (In any universe/dimension) exist.
Everything is Energy - I repeat - EVERYTHING IS ENERGY - EVERYTHING=ENERGY.
Energy can neither be created or destroyed - EVERYTHING IS INFINITE! REMEMBER THIS "EVERYTHING IS INFINITE!"
Not a single object (made of Energy - Thus 'physical') can progress by one spacial-frame until every other object has done so (Newtons' Cradle).
Measurements are dimensionally-relative.
Every exterior demands an interior, and vice versa.
Energy is both Infinite and Eternal.

Is there any part of the above you disagree with?

ps. Hi Fil:)

Nothing clearly exists as a concept and a legitimate excuse for a long debate, as evidenced by this thread and the fact that it has gone on for I'm estimating around 1500 posts or so? If all of you have that much to say about nothing, surely, even if it didn't exist before this topic, it's come into an existence of its own.

Regardless, I'd say that since we can have an idea about what nothing would be, namely the lack of something, it exists in our mindspaces. And since everything we process about our perceived reality also exists in our mindspaces, wouldn't they both 'be' equal, given that they are both 'present' and 'defined' in our mindspaces?

Well stated,

Somet'n from nut'n.