Vijay Karippil
 
  1  
Mon 30 May, 2011 10:04 pm
@guigus,
Thanks for sweet interaction. Yes, everything is interrelated in this world. When we speak of "Nothing" we definitely know what it means either in physical or metaphysical way. In other words, when we speak of Zero (0), we know it has value and it adds value to others. We cannot say for sure what ends where. It is all a continuity from Nothing to Everything.

Vijay
TheoryJester
 
  1  
Mon 30 May, 2011 11:46 pm
@Cyracuz,
Im in the mood for some word salad yum.
I think its worthwhile discussing such topics, help us define who and why we are and where are we going.
When you consider 'nothing' to exist then I guess one would come to the conclusion that is where we are going or not going. Though it must exist it can not be experienced.
A billion years would pass in the blink of an eye until.........something once again happens. Is Atman a fair conclusion?
Cyracuz
 
  1  
Tue 31 May, 2011 05:00 am
@TheoryJester,
Fair enough.
For my part I am satisfied with understanding that "nothing" is a simple word we have endowed with a specific meaning. Any further discussion seems to only foster confusion. Paradoxes are a thing of language, not nature.
guigus
 
  1  
Tue 31 May, 2011 08:41 am
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

Fair enough.
For my part I am satisfied with understanding that "nothing" is a simple word we have endowed with a specific meaning. Any further discussion seems to only foster confusion. Paradoxes are a thing of language, not nature.


But "nature" is "a simple word we have endowed with a specific meaning"...
guigus
 
  1  
Tue 31 May, 2011 08:42 am
@Vijay Karippil,
Vijay Karippil wrote:

Thanks for sweet interaction. Yes, everything is interrelated in this world. When we speak of "Nothing" we definitely know what it means either in physical or metaphysical way. In other words, when we speak of Zero (0), we know it has value and it adds value to others. We cannot say for sure what ends where. It is all a continuity from Nothing to Everything.

Vijay


Sorry for being rude.
Cyracuz
 
  1  
Tue 31 May, 2011 09:34 am
@guigus,
Yes. Are you confused by that word too?
JLNobody
 
  1  
Tue 31 May, 2011 10:35 am
@guigus,
Guigus, I like your dichotomy..."from Nothing to Everything."
You treat them as opposites; that's legitimate in the usual parlance. But I do the opposite when I say that upon my death I will become BOTH Nothing AND Everything. I feel that in a special sense they are the same.
north
 
  1  
Tue 31 May, 2011 08:38 pm
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:

Guigus, I like your dichotomy..."from Nothing to Everything."
You treat them as opposites; that's legitimate in the usual parlance. But I do the opposite when I say that upon my death I will become BOTH Nothing AND Everything. I feel that in a special sense they are the same.


there was not "nothing " in the first place

the Universe and the spirit world are in the same place , just at a different energy level

bio-energy , and nuclear energy
Vijay Karippil
 
  1  
Wed 1 Jun, 2011 10:42 pm
@guigus,
No problem!
As for philosophy, our impression changes like peeling a fruit.
It has no definite state. Yet it stands like rooting through rocks!
Patience and peace!!
Arise and shine!
God bless!!
Vijay
guigus
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jun, 2011 01:52 am
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

Yes. Are you confused by that word too?


Don't play dumb: I was not agreeing with you, but rather showing you that your strategy about "nothing" applies to all words, hence ultimately nullifying all meaning.
guigus
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jun, 2011 01:54 am
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:

Guigus, I like your dichotomy..."from Nothing to Everything."
You treat them as opposites; that's legitimate in the usual parlance. But I do the opposite when I say that upon my death I will become BOTH Nothing AND Everything. I feel that in a special sense they are the same.


They are the same and not the same. In the very moment you say they are the same, you are asserting their difference, although you are also denying that same difference. And in both cases you are correct.
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guigus
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jun, 2011 01:55 am
@north,
north wrote:

JLNobody wrote:

Guigus, I like your dichotomy..."from Nothing to Everything."
You treat them as opposites; that's legitimate in the usual parlance. But I do the opposite when I say that upon my death I will become BOTH Nothing AND Everything. I feel that in a special sense they are the same.


there was not "nothing " in the first place

the Universe and the spirit world are in the same place , just at a different energy level

bio-energy , and nuclear energy


You forgot to mention solar, eolic, and thermal. Don't you want to save the planet?
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guigus
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jun, 2011 01:57 am
@Vijay Karippil,
Vijay Karippil wrote:

No problem!
As for philosophy, our impression changes like peeling a fruit.
It has no definite state. Yet it stands like rooting through rocks!
Patience and peace!!
Arise and shine!
God bless!!
Vijay


You are confusing philosophy with some kind of hallucinogenic.
0 Replies
 
guigus
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jun, 2011 02:02 am
@Vijay Karippil,
Vijay Karippil wrote:
In other words, when we speak of Zero (0), we know it has value and it adds value to others.


Zero has no value, except when all numbers become the same, like in the division of zero by zero:

1 * 0 = 0 .......... 0 / 0 = 1
2 * 0 = 0 .......... 0 / 0 = 2
2 = 1

But when that happens all mathematical operations become the same, hence meaningless. As a distinct number, zero adds no value to other numbers.
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Cyracuz
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jun, 2011 05:27 am
@guigus,
Quote:
Don't play dumb


No, I wouldn't play dumb. I don't presume to beat you at what you are best at.
And zero divided by zero is still not anything but more zero.
guigus
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jun, 2011 06:29 am
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

Quote:
Don't play dumb


No, I wouldn't play dumb. I don't presume to beat you at what you are best at.
And zero divided by zero is still not anything but more zero.


As usual, you turn my accusation against myself without justification while ignoring the argument behind it. Furthermore, your last sentence is too badly written to make any sense. Are you trying to illustrate the difference between playing dumb and actually being so?
Cyracuz
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jun, 2011 08:20 am
@guigus,
Laughing Laughing Laughing
guigus
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jun, 2011 12:01 pm
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

Laughing Laughing Laughing


Don't look now, but there are three guys laughing at you.
Cyracuz
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jun, 2011 04:04 pm
@guigus,
Aw.. now I feel all warm and fuzzy.. Very Happy
guigus
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jun, 2011 05:17 pm
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

Aw.. now I feel all warm and fuzzy.. Very Happy


And totally forgotten about what we were discussing...
 

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