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The new amalgamated philosophy forum.

 
 
wayne
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 02:22 am
@jeeprs,
Hi Jeeprs,
Hope we can all figure this out, can't help but feel we've lost something though.
Guess we need a thread on change.
Should be lots of interesting thoughts come up over this one.
I can't see any emoticons, good for those smiley haters Smile
Guess I'll just stick with Wayne Phil in memorial.
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xris
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 02:55 am
Im trying to be positive and philosophical but at the moment I dont like it...Part of the attraction of the last forum was its lay out. Ive seen forums before like this and it never became personal. I cant understand the idea of if its perfect why fix it. But I wont give up that easily.
wayne
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:03 am
@xris,
xris wrote:

Im trying to be positive and philosophical but at the moment I dont like it...Part of the attraction of the last forum was its lay out. Ive seen forums before like this and it never became personal. I cant understand the idea of if its perfect why fix it. But I wont give up that easily.


I am also unimpressed by the layout. It doesn't feel anywhere near as comfortable, to stark and missing some features.
I'm gonna try and be positive about it, but it's gonna be tough.

OOPS, I just killed a hamster
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:10 am
@TurboLung,
TurboLung wrote:

THIS IS A REALLY BAD LAYOUT NOW. The other way was a lot better. Why would you guys **** it up like this? What was the point of changing a great layout for this piece of ****? Anyway, I'm joining another forum. Bye.

Change is always difficult. I think it says something about a person.
xris
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:13 am
I feel undressed and exposed , seeing familiar faces who might not be who they say they are..TOOO much empty space...strange experience..
xris
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:15 am
@dadpad,
If I was being over critical the change was too sudden and appeared to be take it or leave it. Two tribes amalgamating is never easy , almost impossible.
wayne
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:24 am
@xris,
It's odd that you say that, it does feel a bit that way, kinda hard to describe
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Krumple
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:26 am
Another feature that I am beginning to really miss is the continued thread ability. I notice that now I have to manually remember where i left off reading in every thread i am watching which is daunting to try and remember when you have comments going on multiple threads. The old philo system i wouldn't have to search over all the posts again just to find the newest responses, because it would immediately take me to the point where i left off. That is a feature i am going to really miss if it is not updated here.
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:32 am
@xris,
xris wrote:
If I was being over critical the change was too sudden and appeared to be take it or leave it.


It really was. It was planned to happen in weeks, with the meantime dedicated towards making the transition go more smoothly. However on Tuesday we discovered Philforum's software had been hacked again and we had to rush to close the security hole somehow. Our choices were rush the merge or try to patch that software. The latter would have allowed for a later, smoother transition but presented a greater risk (to all sites on the server) of remaining an unpatched vulnerability.

It's really bad timing for us as well, we are in the middle of dealing with other projects that we had to drop but sometimes things don't go our way and we had to react as fast as we could to having the server compromised through VB (through the photo album I believe).
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:32 am
@Krumple,
Read tracking is a huge boon to forums, we will add it here.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:35 am
@xris,
Quote:
Two tribes amalgamating is never easy , almost impossible
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I did not think you were being overly critical at all. we (A2k )all understand how difficult change can be especially with such short notice.
however i do feel the new format needs to be given a chance.

We are here to help.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:37 am
@Krumple,
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I notice that now I have to manually remember where i left off reading in every thread i am watching


I have to agree with that. thats a pain.
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qualia
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:38 am
Hiya all, just a quick question. Does anyone know where some of the recent essays I scripted can be found, for example, those on Foucault, Marx's German Ideology, Heraclitus, Hobbes, Machiaveli etc? I've dug around the tagged sections (nineteenth/twentieth century philosophers) and can't find them anywhere. Sure if I google them, they crop up, but they don't seem to be available just by looking around the new site. Any ideas on how someone wanting 2 know could find them easily?

On a different note. I hope everyone of old times have found their way here. I appreciate that the change is going to appear a little daunting, weird, to say the least.

Usually amalgamations of this kind in the business world equate to making more money-cutting down on expenses, and I hope this common place pursuit won't cause a detriment to any of the thinkers and wonderful discussions witnessed in the past month or so at the old site. Looking at the new kind of lay-out, I do wonder if this move was made in the pursuit of furthering depthful, philosophical discussions or just another cynical example of making a quick buck. Only time will tell. Hopefully, a new sentiment of community and depthful discussion will arise again.

I will take my leave now and bid you all a heartfelt adios. It was a pleasure to have conversed in the short time that I was present. It wasn't a bad innings, right?

Take Care, all.
qualia
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:41 am
@qualia,
All your topics should be here: http://able2know.org/user/qualia/topics/

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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 03:45 am
@qualia,
Try googling those threads and tagging them with your choice of meaningffull tags. You can tag any number of threads with the same tag. Once you have tagged them they should appear to the right of your screen under the tag you have given them or under the heading My tags at the top of your screen
# My Topics My Posts #My Tags # New Topics
TurboLung
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 06:18 pm
@msolga,
The last forum was easy to understand. It was easy on the eyes and layout much better. I found a similar site, although not phylosophy, you will get the point. It was like this: http://au.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_topics.php?board_id=314159266&tag=general-forums%3Btitle%3B4

msolga
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 06:27 pm
@TurboLung,
Thank you, TurboLung.
Yes, definitely less harsh on the eye, I agree with you.
I like the site design, too. A tighter, more compact look, I think.
Are you getting a bit more used to the "look" of A2K yet?
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kennethamy
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 06:52 pm
@msolga,
I find it harder to navigate, and harder to reply and to edit.
Zetherin
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 06:59 pm
@Alan McDougall,
Alan McDougall wrote:
Hi I preferred the old forum layout, but be it as it-may I will try to adjust

Peace


The more of us who echo these sentiments, the better.

kennethamy wrote:
I find it harder to navigate, and harder to reply and to edit.


As have I. One thing that I think would be easy to change and would improve general replying would be to have the BBCode Editor opened automatically. This way, members can bold, italicize, underline, insert hyperlinks, and quote, without initialize any editors. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, there

The second thing I would liked changed would be to insert a "quote" button. Right now there only seems to be a "reply" button, and the action results in a "@Whoeveryouwererespondingto". This is troubling because it means we have to copy and paste the part of the reply we want to respond to into the reply box (not to mention we have to manually quote it using the BBC Editor).
salima
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 07:07 pm
@dadpad,
how did the
Quote:
my tags
get there? is there a way i can make them what i want? i am not getting the idea what is tags...

it seems like someone put tags on some threads i was participating in and now they are listed on my profile page as 'my tags'...there is some use to this for me?

this reminds me a lot of microsoft which thinks it knows exactly what everyone wants, and places like aol that want to reach out and wipe your ass for you. it doesnt mean the forum itself and the members are not very fine, but when i open a page that is supposed to be my profile page and find a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with me i feel a little...insulted? enraged? maybe this is only another software issue...or maybe it is an issue i have with the world and progress and hegemony. maybe if nothing else i will learn more about myself from the resistance and feelings of exploitation that seem to be mounting up in me.

i admit to my own stupidity in not backing up what i put on the old forum, serves me right. i guess i thought i was close enough to the end of my life that a forum wouldnt die before i do...

you can buy the philosophyforum but you cant buy philosophers and members-they will of course stay or go as they choose. i would guess more newbies will stay than longtime members.

there was no reason to be exclusive-it was simply a matter of like people like minds and similar interests. we had a great variety in the geography, age, education level, so many things...but at the heart of philosophy forum was something we all had in common, and we came there for that reason. when you take a wider base of people-obviously i have something in common with every human being who ever lived-i am human, most of the time. but even in my home community on earth there is a vacuum of people who want to discuss the subjects i am now concerned with. having found them in a nice little place was great...

i dont know how to explain this. it has something to do with 'one size fits all' and generic stuff...if you are looking for something, say hardware...some people might go to walmart. i go to the hardware store. walmart is buying out the world, or trying to. i think philosophyforum has been bought out by walmart...i have come in through a door i didnt choose and now i am trying to find out where all the goods are and thinking there must be an exit and do i have a choice, etc...

probably this is too long a comment with no apparent purpose...should have been a blog...
 

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