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@Night Ripper,

the reason the Universe exists is because energy and matter can never not exist

otherwise we get into absolute nothing , which leads to absolute nothing , which leads to no change in absolute nothing for infinity

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@north,

north;143176 wrote:

the reason the Universe exists is because energy and matter can never not exist

otherwise we get into absolute nothing , which leads to absolute nothing , which leads to no change in absolute nothing for infinity

So why say it started 13 billion years ago?

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@xris,

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Originally Posted by north

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the reason the Universe exists is because energy and matter can never not exist

otherwise we get into absolute nothing , which leads to absolute nothing , which leads to no change in absolute nothing for infinity

xris;143184 wrote:

So why say it started 13 billion years ago?

because mainstream astronomy and most astrophysists can't think out of the box of 100 yrs ago

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@north,

north;143191 wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by north
the reason the Universe exists is because energy and matter can never not exist

otherwise we get into absolute nothing , which leads to absolute nothing , which leads to no change in absolute nothing for infinity

because mainstream astronomy and most astrophysists can't think out of the box of 100 yrs ago

but some astrophysists are taking Cosmic Plasmas more seriously

http://plasmascience.net/tpu/TheUniverse/.html

Whats serious about inventing alternative theories without abiding by the laws of observation. Why not conclude the pink unicorn created the universe from green cheese, you have no more proof of any alternative, than my unicorn. I will ask again why measure the universe when we cant decide on what nothing is?

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@xris,

www.TheUniverse

try this site

www.plasmauniverse.com

plasmauniverse.info/

try the last address it got me to TheUniverse in google which is where I wanted you to go

the other two may work or not

( I save the original in my favorites , and it works ) but I'll be darned if I can get the address from the site its self

frustrating

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@north,

north;143198 wrote:

www.TheUniverse

try this site

www.plasmauniverse.com

plasmauniverse.info/

I cant stand vague unknown ponderous links. Do your best without them please. No conjecture, the scientific journal are full of them.

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@TuringEquivalent,

TuringEquivalent;143116 wrote:

If two universe are entangle as in a quantum mechanical multiverse, i don ` t see how they are dispointed universes at all. The effects one make in one universe would have a direct effect on the other, so this seem to implies that they have causal relation with one another. How is that disjointed? Also, they are are entangled, would that not mean there is a single wavefunction that represent the two entangled worlds. If so, then this wavefunction is one thing. How is this disjointed?

Now that?s the heart of the matter if you read my initial post on this...One TOE, one Multiverse, because nothing is truly disjointed...you were the one who came up with a definitive separation and I was the one who did n?t buy it...remember ?

Whatever this possible alternate Universes are, they are linked !

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@xris,

xris;143205 wrote:

I cant stand vague unknown ponderous links. Do your best without them please. No conjecture, the scientific journal are full of them.

the Cosmic Plasma theory was around even in Einsteins day , it was just too complicated

basically the Cosmic Plasma theory states that galaxies produce proto galaxies

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@north,

north;143218 wrote:

the Cosmic Plasma theory was around even in Einsteins day , it was just too complicated

basically the Cosmic Plasma theory states that galaxies produce proto galaxies

There are scores of theories but none are capable of scrutiny. Pin your flag to one and give it your best shot.

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@Night Ripper,

Night Ripper;143172 wrote:

That the universe exists for no reason seems to be the conservative answer. Going back to the earlier analogy for what the world rests on, while it may seem amazing that the world rests on nothing, it would be even more amazing if it rested on an elephant and a turtle which themselves rested on nothing. At some point you just have to accept that something exists without reason.

It all depends on what one considers reason...purpose is Reason and Necessity...
Existence is about being the reason and not about having a reason...and that is exactly what separates Noumena from Phenomena...
The Thing which is, it does n?t "spare" free space for nothingness, is all fulfilling, all encompassing and all reasoned...in all times and therefore above Time !...in my mind it could n?t be simpler...

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil. Albuquerque;143247 wrote:

It all depends on what one considers reason...purpose is Reason and Necessity...
Existence is about being the reason and not about having a reason...and that is exactly what separates Noumena from Phenomena...
The Thing which is, it does n?t "spare" free space for nothingness, is all fulfilling, all encompassing and all reasoned...in all times and therefore above Time !...in my mind it could n?t be simpler...

Reasons are things people have. I have a reason to go to the store, to get milk. Apples don't need to have reasons to fall from trees, they just do.

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Of course, in order to be so it cannot truly move, grow or shrink, and has to be completely Determined...(Time and Space are not what they seam)
In a couple of decades I?m hoping to see something like this as the standard thinking in Science...(give or take a few bits on what I have defended all around the forum...)

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@xris,

Quote:
Originally Posted by north

the Cosmic Plasma theory was around even in Einsteins day , it was just too complicated

basically the Cosmic Plasma theory states that galaxies produce proto galaxies

xris;143229 wrote:

There are scores of theories but none are capable of scrutiny. Pin your flag to one and give it your best shot.

have I not already done this ? I have

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@Night Ripper,

Night Ripper;143257 wrote:

Reasons are things people have. I have a reason to go to the store, to get milk. Apples don't need to have reasons to fall from trees, they just do.

So you think apples don?t have or fulfil a purpose ? right...of course, one thing is to see reason and quite another to be its cause...you don?t have reasons you realize there are reasons !

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For you reason is in mind, for some in God, and for me, in Everything...(and minds are not needed to it, at least not the type of minds that we can conceive)

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil. Albuquerque;143259 wrote:

Of course, in order to be so it cannot truly move, grow or shrink, and has to be completely Determined...(Time and Space are not what they seam)

true

time is a measured movement produced by the interaction(s) of matter , time is not a real physical entity

and space goes hand in hand with the existence of something , material things

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In a couple of decades I?m hoping to see something like this as the standard thinking in Science...(give or take a few bits on what I have defended all around the forum...)

done

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@Fil Albuquerque,

I find it all amazing, how concepts revolve round and around...the presumption of Conscientiousness and Reason reduced to the Human...anyway, such is life...

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north;143276 wrote:

true

time is a measured movement produced by the interaction(s) of matter , time is not a real physical entity

and space goes hand in hand with the existence of something , material things

done

I get what you mean, still I don?t know what the well "Physical" aims at...a bit like in Matrix remember ? I prefer X... Smile

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil. Albuquerque;143280 wrote:

I find it all amazing, how concepts revolve round and around...the presumption of Conscientiousness and Reason reduced to the Human...anyway, such is life...

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I get what you mean still I don?t know what the well Physical aims at...a bit like in Matrix remember ? I prefer X... Smile

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understanding of the Universe

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@north,

north;143290 wrote:

understanding of the Universe

Humans are capable of reasoning, but i just can?t reduce it to the scope of human perspective...Reason is indeed truly Universal !
Aldo the perspective can change (story telling) the Truth is the same...

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@Fil Albuquerque,

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Originally Posted by north

understanding of the Universe

Fil. Albuquerque;143293 wrote:

Humans are capable of reasoning, but i just can?t reduce it to the scope of human perspective...Reason is indeed truly Universal !
Aldo the perspective can change (story telling) the Truth is the same...

true on both accounts

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@xris,

xris;143160 wrote:

So whose being metaphysical, you or me?

No. I am just giving a stupid respond to a stupid question. I do that. I am only human.

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Fil. Albuquerque;143210 wrote:

Now that?s the heart of the matter if you read my initial post on this...One TOE, one Multiverse, because nothing is truly disjointed...you were the one who came up with a definitive separation and I was the one who did n?t buy it...remember ?

Whatever this possible alternate Universes are, they are linked !

Say what? There is nothing is the quantum multiverse case that exclude disjoint multiverses. This comes from your own misunderstanding. The quantum mechanics universes are all part of difference branches of the wave function for the evolution of the universe or multiverse. If you have two disjointed universes, then they must at least not be described by the same physics equation.

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north;143261 wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by north
the Cosmic Plasma theory was around even in Einsteins day , it was just too complicated

basically the Cosmic Plasma theory states that galaxies produce proto galaxies

A stupid question only merits a stupid respond.

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