@Psycobabble,
Psycobabble;119570 wrote:Krumple why two words if the meaning is the same, I believe that agnostic is different from atheist, hence two differing words.
I never said the meaning was the same, and the meaning is NOT the same. One is talking about belief where as the other is talking about knowledge.
Let's change the context a little. My favorite existing entity is the flying pink elephant. Do you believe that the flying pink elephant exists? Yes or no? Or do you take that the knowledge of the existence of the flying pink elephant is not enough to make a decision?
If you lean towards option B more than option A. Why?
If you are leaning more towards option B then EVERYTHING imaginable MUST also equal the existence of god as well. So the flying pink elephant is equal to the existence of god. You are no closer to knowing god exists than you are to knowing the existence of the flying pink elephant. Yet when it comes to the religious, they refuse to accept that both are equal when it comes to knowledge. The only difference is belief. You can claim you believe in one and not the other, but in reality you are not saying anything, just making a pick.
Psycobabble;119570 wrote:
Yes point taken, but the self surety of no god is atheistic and the wait for the knowledge is agnostic. Two different words with two different meanings.
Yeah and you know what, every single day you make assumptions based off the information you have at hand, yet you are completely ignoring this fact of life.
For example you want to cross the street, so you step to the corner and look both ways to see if there are any cars coming. But lets change this a little, let's make the cars invisible, but the danger of them is still real. Now can you safely cross the street? No, because you can't make the choice if it is safe to cross because the cars are not visible to you. So what ends up happening? You stand there uncertain when to go.
This is what people do but refuse to accept they are doing it. Change the context a little and it shows just how absurd such behavior is. You could assume that the cars were coming and tell people that you haven't gone across the street because there are cars preventing you but as soon as someone says point out the cars, you can't. So you are doing nothing but playing games.
Why do people play this game? Because they are afraid of the reality of existence. They don't want to end. They don't like the idea of having an ego that will terminate and never do anything else. That their existence will ultimately come to not. They want to believe they will exist for ever and that everything they cherish will always be with them. These fairy tales help to cushion that reality and until people accept the reality we will continue to be victims of religious dogma.
