Time is it moving slower than it was in the young universe?

Gravity is not like electromagnetism. It is an entirely different force.

The Magnus effect has very little bearing on the motion of the planets, if any at all. For example how would you describe the Magnus effect in relation to Uranus and Venus?

Dark energy is something different. However dark matter is used to describe the missing matter that explains why galaxies spin at the speed they do. There just isn't enough mass in the objects that we can detect.

I didn't say it's the same, but "acts like" thus share similar propeties, I know very well they'r different and different laws applies.

Lol? ..gas planets? Gas planets and magnus effect acts differently than solid planets.

You are avoiding my point, your previous thesis is invalid, super massive black holes and gravity alone ..along with your vortex does not explain how a galaxy can consist, and not disperse.

Electromagnetism is a much larger force than gravity. A lot larger.

Venus isn't a gas planet.

No I'm not. You need to think about how a galaxy forms. This can happen in two different ways. Either by small galaxies colliding, or in situ with dark matter.
The dark matter 'apparently' creates the additional mass that explains why a galaxy spins in the way that it does.
In actual fact as a 'spiral' galaxy spins, the stars slowly move in towards the centre of the galaxy.

Because time is linked or merged into the force of gravity when in the unspeakable far future when all matter has dispersed from the universe and gravity becomes zero, time must stop

How in the world can time possibly stop, everything is affected by time? Time is the Great Push, it pushes everything along and forces everything into the future.

Yes like 10 uplifted in 64 or something, but still the principles are still much similar, how hard is it to understand?

Fine then you explain to me.

Dark matter has never been proved to exist, it just a filler for the lack of understaning how spiral galaxies doesn't disperse.

How in the world can time possibly stop, everything is affected by time? Time is the Great Push, it pushes everything along and forces everything into the future.

God is a movement of people. God is the Mover. Time lack ?:bigsmile:

Now come on Peps what does that mean? Im going to call you riddler..good avatar for you..:bigsmile:

Apparently it seems to be quite difficult.
Electromagnetism is different in that we know the particle attraction and how electrical charge is conveyed.
We do not know anything about the particles required for gravitational attraction.

I didn't bring up the Magnus effect. I am stating that it has very little, if any, effect on the motion of the planets.

Yes it does. Just read about the Bullet cluster photos. I posted a link in another thread.
We can see how the gravitational effect of dark matter effects the light passing it.

we all have lack of Time to realize fully our potentio

If I threw an apple or an orange in your face it would still be roughly the same, even though an appe and an orange has diffrente propeties. You stare youself blind at the propeties when it's the endresult that is the essence ..it's still hurts no matter what.

So you have no scientific disproof? Well anyways, my thesis is not backed up by scientific proof, but merely a theory.

OMG!! ..WE HAVE A NOBEL PRIZE WINNER!! ..HE HAS SOLVED THE EGNIMA ABOUT DARK MATTER!! ..dude, think you reaches a little too far in your claims.

What has that got to do with the subject?

And it is an invalid theory based on the observations that have been made.

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You suggested that "Dark matter has never been proved to exist". Quite the contrary; we know that something exists because we can see its effect on light because of its gravity. We just don't know what it is because we can't detect it with our 'baryonic' detectors.

Are you always this rude? For a poster on a philosophy forum, you seem to jump to conclusions very quickly, without thinking about, or understanding, what you are saying or what others have posted.

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Dark Matter Exists | Cosmic Variance | Discover Magazine

What has that got to do with the subject?


And it is an invalid theory based on the observations that have been made.


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You suggested that "Dark matter has never been proved to exist". Quite the contrary; we know that something exists because we can see its effect on light because of its gravity. We just don't know what it is because we can't detect it with our 'baryonic' detectors.

Are you always this rude? For a poster on a philosophy forum, you seem to jump to conclusions very quickly, without thinking about, or understanding, what you are saying or what others have posted.

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Dark Matter Exists | Cosmic Variance | Discover Magazine

You exclusivly see the dissimilarities, and blatantly ignores the similarites.

Currently astronomers claims the moon of the earth are 10 meters out of place, explain that, I explain it with magnus effect, but that's just me.

The very same guys talks about gravitational lensens, when facts is as you previously claimed that gravity is weak, doesn't that seem quite selfcontradicting?

That's funny, the excat same could I say about you, that's why I lose patience and act overly emotional.

Maybe your analogy was bad??

I see you blatantly ignored my question about how the Magnus effect works with relation to Venus and Uranus.

Not at all. Gravitational lensing is exactly what I was referring to. Gravity is extremely weak, you can defeat the Earths gravity by just picking something up. However when you have objects with enormous masses, such as a galaxy, then you have a lot of gravity.

Fine, then stop being rude and let's have a civil discussion. I am only trying to help you understand.:bigsmile:

I did infact answer your question, maybe not satisfyingly.

That contradicts the fact that the gravity only accounts for 1/10th of what should hold a galaxy together, as perfectly stated ..gravity is weak.

Many skeptics claim it's the gasses and plasma that will bend the light ...by acting as a lens, not gravity.

Please could you repeat your answer. I didn't understand it.

From what we currently understand, there is a huge amount of dark matter, many times more than the physical matter we can detect.

These observations provide the strongest evidence yet that most of the matter in the universe is dark

The thing is we can predict the movement of light mathematically and then confirm our predictions with observation.
All the matter in galaxies, including gas and plasma, will have a gravitational effect. But not enough for the movement we see.

It is unlikely that only the gas and plasma will have a significant lensing effect, besides this is also mathematically provable.

I'm sure it's still there, besides you didn't answer why the moon are 10 meters out of place.

So you have no scientific disproof? Well anyways, my thesis is not backed up by scientific proof, but merely a theory.

Fine then you explain to me.

Currently astronomers claims the moon of the earth are 10 meters out of place, explain that, I explain it with magnus effect, but that's just me

I did infact answer your question, maybe not satisfyingly.

Lol? ..gas planets? Gas planets and magnus effect acts differently than solid planets.

They havn't detected dark matter, they have nonly observed the effects of dark matter.

They doesn't state that it proofs dark matter beyond reasonable doubt. It still leaves a chance for other effects that causes the observed phenomena.

I don't buy that.

Then show evidence of disproval, please.

I'm sure it's still there, besides you didn't answer why the moon are 10 meters out of place.