Consciousness is a Biological Problem

Okay Oden, just for the fun of it:

There is a complete and systematic lack of transitional life-forms (i.e., "missing links") between the various kinds of life in the fossil record. This would not be the case if the theory of evolution was a valid hypothesis. Sometimes evolutionists have tried to make a case that this or that newly-discovered fossil was a "missing link," but all such attempts have ended in failure. No missing links have ever been discovered among the voluminous number of fossils found so far

When the mathematical laws of probability are applied to the known facts of biology, the odds against the incredible, organized complexity of our biological world evolving through blind chance, plus time, are so astronomical in size that, for all practical purposes, evolution is mathematically impossible

In fact, the more we discover about the incredibly intricate, organized complexity of the biological world which exists at the molecular level, the more amazing it is that the evolutionist can actually believe it is all a product of pure blind chance over time.

Moreover, there is no evidence of gradually-changing DNA codes in nature that would allow periodic mutations to occur which would gradually transform a given type of organism, over long periods of time, into a completely different type of organism. Instead, organisms can mutate only so much before insurmountable DNA limits are reached. That is what the evidence demonstrates. Therefore, as noted previously, you will never see a mouse mutate into an elephant no matter how much time you allow for the alleged evolutionary process to occur. So, even though limited mutations occur in organisms, it is impossible for drastic or unlimited mutations, i.e., evolution, to occur.

The world is overrun by idiots. Therefore, either stupidity is somehow extremely beneficial to the human species (which seems very doubtful to me) or natural selection should have weeded us out long ago in favor of mice. This clear failure of natural selection demonstrates that we cannot be the products of evolution, and have clearly been designed (probably by mice) to be a species of idiots.

Please don't bother to reply to these individually as I will not be following up, I could find links and posts all day long to dispute the teaching of the theory of evolution from prominent scientists the world over.

For now, I at least entertain the hope that perhaps you just may be able to catch a reflection of introspective-like meditation that will help in your being able to see where you have erred.

For now, I at least entertain the hope that perhaps you just may be able to catch a reflection of introspective-like meditation that will help in your being able to see where you have erred.

The highest, as the lowest, form of criticism is a mode of autobiography.
Picture of Dorian Gray
Oscar Wilde

Rich,

I hear ya friend. My thinking is that I am no more willing to say that evolution is not possible than I am to say that there is no life after death.

I simply refuse to be caught up in believing speculations and theories devised by others. I am certainly entertained and curious about them all. Many have credibility that warrants further investigation. But I am no longer willing to toss anything out or take anything in without applying my own ability to use logic and reason to evaluate its worthiness. The professional designations before the names of some people do not impress me if their thinking is biased or senseless.

Rich,..

For instance, I strongly lean toward reincarnation, but I have not found any specific teaching of that which actually equates with what I have considered regarding it.

lol Oden,

You just proved my point of how easy it is to find what you want on the internet. Did you check out any of the other million links that came up while you were there?

and yet you refuse to tackle the arguments against it when they are made from valid sources

Oden, as i said already, there are many hundreds of links to scientific study debating evolution theories

and many go uncontested by the evolution supporting community because of their credibility. Most evolutionists just wish they would go away so they can arrange to have evolution taught in schools as a science without question

SUCH AS...?

a reminder: you haven't given me one such study, just opinionated dreck from an end-times preacher



I agree but I'd like to take it a step futher

geography class should include the ongoing debate about whether the Earth is round, and history class should bring up whether the Holocaust happened

we can just listen to the Jewish version of events, that doesn't promote critical thinking

Already told ya, use your own hands to type it into google. why should I do it for you

I am not the one suggesting that evolution has been declared a scientific fact, you are. prove it if it matters that much to you man!

The rest of us here know the difference. We know the debate continues

HMMM, I believe this makes my case, can I use it?

"I agree but I'd like to take it a step futher

geography class should include the ongoing debate about whether the Earth is round, and history class should bring up whether the Holocaust happened

we can just listen to the Jewish version of events, that doesn't promote critical thinking.." Oden

well unless you look at all sides of a cube there is no way to see what each side reveals. Without such scrutiny there could be a secret revealed on one side that you have never learned, and will never know until you do look. All Im saying Oden, is roll that cube around a little bit if you're brave enough.

THIS IS THE EXACT REASON WHY EVOLUTION SHOULD NOT BE TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS AS SCIENTIFIC FACT. sCHOOL IS FOR LEARNING THE FACTS OF LIFE. tHERE ARE SPECIFICS ORIENTED PLACES WHERE THEY CAN LEARN ABOUT THE THEORETICALS AND IDEOLOGIES.

... wow ... I mean - wow ... just - wow ... are you really saying that what we should teach children is to regurgitate untethered facts and withhold from them the tools to think about them? ...

so rich do you think critically about the idea that "shen" is rooted in the heart, which can be replaced? or no?

you are awfully selective in what you think about critically

also I think you're a conformist; real nonconformists tend to have bitterly negative views of society and people in general

Constantly

But this comes at a cost. It is difficult to belong to a group, because groups require a constant center that the group can group around. Otherwise there is no group. It is one of those trade-offs in life. So I have freedom to roam, but I do not have the constancy of groups. It has worked alright for me, but I can understand why others give up some of their freedom for free thought so that they can belong

Not necessarily. Someone who thinks critically can learn to be very accepting of opposing views, understanding that everyone has a different perspective, different experiences, different lessons to learn, different journeys in this lifetime. It is a matter of perspective.

My idea, in order to teach critical thinking, is to challenge the central tenets of a group and see how well those tenets supported.

critical thinking and epistemic relativism are completely incompatible