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What is the purpose of life after death ?

 
 
Krumple
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 04:25 am
@ughaibu,
ughaibu;168953 wrote:
One thing about these two-life models is that the second life is considerably longer, usually infinitely longer, this means that the probability is infinitely high that this is the afterlife.


I don't follow this reasoning. Duration doesn't determine probability. Unless you are referring to, oh never mind. But could you deduce this a little for me because I don't see how you can determine it. If there are two examples, one short duration and the other "infinite" duration. How is it the first would be the second?

I always like how people flip flop infinity with eternity. As if they almost reject infinity because of it's problems and somehow find comfort in eternity instead. I simply can not imagine anything or things that I would want to do or have for eternity.

If there is a god, maybe this is why he wanted to create other beings. So they could suffer with him and his boredom. If you knew everything what is there to discover? If you understood everything, what is there to learn? If you could do everything perfectly, what is there to practice? If you could perform everything perfectly, what is there to be proud of or accomplish? Absolutely nothing.
Amperage
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 04:32 am
@Krumple,
Krumple;168876 wrote:
If this is the purpose, why even bother with the whole living part then?
It's all part of a necessary growth process. I often find this question does not hold up under any sort of scrutiny or close examination. This sentiment is the sentiment of one who wishes to have the good without the bad without realizing that without the bad, without the journey, the good is devalued. Why do we, metaphorically speaking, crawl before we walk? Why do parents often buy their kids "clunkers" when they first start driving only later to buy them something nice? When we spend months and years training for something only to finally reach that end goal, is it not all the sweeter because we had to put in so much effort? If a life long friend dies do we then ask, "well what was the point of him even living?" No, because it's about that relationship and those moments we got to spend with him or her and the memories and experiences and lessons learned that will stick with us.

This life is but a medium by which we can have a relationship with God. One which is not all that unlike an adolescent who is given a "clunker" to work out the kinks, gain confidence, learn the value of things, and grow so that later(after death) we will understand the meaning and value of what we are to experience.
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ughaibu
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 04:37 am
@Krumple,
Krumple;168976 wrote:
I don't follow this reasoning.
There are two lives, one of finite duration and one of infinite duration. The probability of being alive, in one of these two lives, is infinitely greater for the latter than for the former. As we appear to be living in a finite life, the probability of there being an infinite life is infinitely small. Not that there was any reason to conjecture an infinite life anyway.
solowar
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2010 02:54 pm
@ughaibu,
Anyone who believes life after death,thinks in his subconscious that he would gain immortality and magical powers with death.In the end the final target is like being god. The answer is like being god.
Alan McDougall
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jun, 2010 12:08 am
@solowar,
solowar;173884 wrote:
Anyone who believes life after death,thinks in his subconscious that he would gain immortality and magical powers with death.In the end the final target is like being god. The answer is like being god.


Below is an excerpt of a near death experience that gives some reasons toward why there is a purpose to life after death (MY EXPERIENCE)

What is reality and who are we really?

The essential complete you, or your whole real essence, is a field of awareness that interacts with its own self (Soul) and then becomes both mind/brain and body. In other words, you are consciousness or spirit, which then conceives, constructs, governs, and becomes the mind/brain and the body. The real you are inseparable from the patterns of intelligence that permeate every fiber of creation.

At the deepest level of existence, you are an infinite eternal Being, and you are nowhere and everywhere at the same time. There is no other "you" than the entire cosmos. The God + cosmic mind create the physical universe, and the personal mind/brain (Soul) experiences the physical universe. But in truth, the cosmic mind and our personal mind are both permeated by "God the Infinite Consciousness". "God the Infinite Consciousness" is our source, and all manifestation is inherent within it.

"God the Infinite Consciousness" observing itself creates the notion of observer, or the soul; the process of observation, or the mind; and that which is observed, or the body and the world.

The observer and the observed create relationships between themselves; this is space. The movement of these relationships creates events; this is time. But all these are none other than the "God the Infinite Consciousness" itself.

In other words, we are "God the Infinite Consciousness" with a "localized point of view" An aspect or facet of the great reality we call God. And yet our whole system of thought divides the "Great Observer God" from the observed us; it divides the "God the Infinite Consciousness" into a world of objects separated by space and time.

The "the intellect of the brain" imprisons us momentarily in a cage of fictitious images, a web of space, time, and causation. As a result, we lose touch with the true nature of our reality, which is powerful, boundless, immortal, and free.

The intellect of the brain". Mistakes the image of reality for reality itself. It squeezes the soul into the volume of a body, in the span of a lifetime, and now the spell of mortality is cast. The image of the self overshadows the unbounded Self, and we feel cut off or disconnected from "God the Infinite Consciousness", our source.


The real you are a non-material soul and therefore not subject to the limitations of space, time, matter, and causation. The soul, the spirit, the essential you, is beyond all that. In this very moment, you are surrounded by a pure consciousness. Pure consciousness illuminates and animates your mind and body, and it is powerful, nourishing, invincible, unbounded, and free. Pure consciousness, "God the Infinite


Eternal Spirit", animates and sustains everything in existence, which means it is omniscient (all knowing), omnipresent (present in all locations simultaneously), and omnipotent (all powerful). "And when we learn and grow and evolve into understanding we shall be all those things also, indeed co- creators with God.

Know we are all a continuum of conscious energy like a keyboard from the slow waves of the physical through the electromagnetic spectrum all the way into the highest frequency waves of spirit, so I shall continue to play my whole keyboard with every blessed cell in my body and with my whole heart and mind until it is so. So be it!
Similarly the uncertainty in the predictability of the actions of quantum particles like electrons indicates the presence of self awareness/consciousness in them! All matter finally boils down to these quantum particles. So, does this mean that universe is self aware and this awareness is spread across all things that make up this universe and at all levels starting from the quantum particles to the universe itself and universe is the highest level of awareness? not only me, you, but not everything in the universe is self aware?
The universe is self aware, and then what is your/my awareness all about? Probably a low level awareness, that becomes complete and gets a true picture when it can realize the higher level universal awareness? Or are we a part of that real universal awareness
The entire universe is just an infinitesimal fragment of the Great reality Mind to whom we must one day all account for the actions done in our lives on earth. Our huge universe is only relatively huge in the grand order of existence it is but a quantum particle of a greater reality and this greater reality but a tiny particle of a much greater reality infinitely larger but there is no real scale a quantum particle in our universe could be a universe in its own right coming into existence and vanishing out of existence in a moment to small to measure. Even Planck's constant on these scales is an eternity and time a meaningless measure.

To the tiny infinitesimal we are slow moving giants living for great epochs to others those who are giants to us, in greater realms or dimensions of creation, we are just flashing sparks of life, one moment here and then gone and out of existence.

I saw universes come into existence expand into a cold dark death in a blink of an eye, I knew there were others much larger and slower living that saw our universe as a firefly flashing one moment and gone the next.

Does all this mean we humans are not important, absolutely not for time and scale are only illusions of the mind, there is a place in which all sentient life will live and do live outside of material time or space

In the realms of equality all entities come together and live at the same pace in the infinite ever existing moment of life.

I saw this place beyond time and space a universe of golden light where fragment or aspect of the Infinite Divine God is a great golden sun with a thousands trillion planets revolved around it all in the same orbit. Who populated these worlds and what the purpose? I do not know, but I will find out when I pass into glory forever. Of course God is not confined to that one place but it seemed to be something like the Holy Of Holies in the
Hebrew Temple. Could I have access to this place?

This thought came to me as I traveled down the corridors and multirealms not known yet to man, the skeptics will debate that nature's fine-tuning cannot be passed off as a mere coincidence. 'There are only two possible explanations,' he says. Either the universe was designed specifically for us by a creator, or there exists a large number of universes, each with different values of the fundamental constants, and, not surprisingly we find ourselves in one in which the constants have just the right values to permit galaxies, stars and life.

This made me really think about what of significance I had done during my life. Then I remembered my wife, children grandchildren, parents, siblings, relatives , friends and all the learning and wisdom I had gained in my short existence in this earthly dimension and it all had meaning and purpose and I knew I had not lived in vain, but will leave behind a legacy of love when I die.

To us our universe is supposedly 15 billion years old, but in the mind of God the Infinite Eternal, it has only existed for a tiny moment a blink in his hypothetical great eyes.

My essence could expand to encompass all existence and my mind became godlike in knowledge and understanding, I was everywhere but nowhere all at the same time. My ethereal body could enlarge to the degree that I could feel taste touch and hear and experience all reality. I could feel and hear the vibrations of every star every planet in the entire universe. My body metamorphosis and became the universe, shrinking and enlarging at will. I was omni - all but at the same time a mere mortal experiencing God the barrier between me and God blurred and became vague.

Dancing in the sun with great plasma beings washing off the flack with nuclear energy, what was previously considered by me as infinitely hot now became a cool bath within the shadow of a great dark sunspot of some far and distant star

The light of God was golden like the setting or rising sun out of it flowing out from the infinite mind of God, who is the Life and cause of existence. I heard him speaking to me and everything flashed in and out of my mind by this huge voiceless voice that filled all existence with the primordial energy.

It was the most beautiful music of God that sustains the universe. GOD is the vibrations of all existence

I remembered the Bible Isaiah stating the Lion will eat grass and a little child will lead him, the wolf will lay down with the lamb, there will no longer be death sorrow or loneness, and every tear will be wiped clear and people will sing with angels and God will join in with his awesome mighty voice of infinite beauty, filling all of existence and his voice will banish evil, fear and suffering forever. His voice is the voice of "LIFE"

"There a total mystical union with the divine" The norm is the union between multiple souls or between similar souls. Perhaps the greatest physical ecstasy known to humanity is sex and "something like this continues in the next life" but it is always based on love as no lust exists in the afterlife. It in like really getting inside the totally of another welcoming being. Like minds and souls join in glorious revolving
Mandalay's of ever changing lights a glory of intense euphoric "Oneness". Of course ere is fun and games in heaven, heaven is not about labor but about living in love and peace

In heaven, we are free to enjoy each other by totally giving of our souls, spirits and minds in true altruistic (unselfish) love, a merging of such unimaginable wonder, that our present minds and bodies could not comprehend it.

However, the union with the God is the place of infinite love and light, is beyond description in its wonder. Does everyone just enter there no? The doorkeeper to God and union with him is the "Great Prince of Peace" Jesus

"LOVE, PEACE, SECURITY, JOY AND HAPPINESS BEST DESCRIBED THE SAFETY IN THE ARMS OF GOD"

I continued to experiencing sustained sense of vibrant happiness beyond description together with unimaginable joy, peace and glory.
Thinking about this state of blissful rapture later I realized that God would not let souls continually remain in this state of bliss, as life, learning and purpose continues after we die and leave the earth. Death is not the end of life but the doorway into endless life

These is no such thing as boredom, because a process of continual learning and hopefully graduation to higher heavens There is an instant access and pooling of all knowledge by telepathy between all the minds in the universe, but of course even in heaven privacy is respected. In addition, it is possible to communicate in this manner with the simple innocent minds of our passed over beloved pets and all creatures big and small. More in feelings of love, appreciation and emotion than words.

By telepathy, teleportation, etc we will have instant access to all our beloved ones, throughout creation, no matter how far they are from us, by this exiting means. Wonderful is it not?

Therefore, there is no such thing as separation, loneliness, tears, sorrow, and sickness and finally there is victory over death itself. Just think of where you want to go or who you want to be with and you are there. The use of the terms telepathy and teleportation are not really correct but the nearest words I can find. In reality there is no such thing as remoteness or distant just billions of portals, doorways into parallel existences. With otherworldly eyes these doorways can be seen and we learn how to use them, like some huge underground rail road system.

From heaven we are able to hear in our minds the sorrow of loved ones still on earth who can not come to terms or understand or sometimes unexpected death. So" if we want to" one can make an effort to contact our loved ones still on earth by entering their dreams, thoughts, making them sense our presence, in various ways such as a flower, feather , smell or, even fragrances. That, hopefully make them aware, although feeling that we are far away, in reality we are just a hand stretch away.

There are specially gifted people on earth that can pick up our thoughts thought from the heavenly planes and relay them to the grieving relatives or friends. When we are in heaven we can also make people on earth meet each other so any urgent message from heaven is given to the correct person. This might seem just a coincidence at the time, but this link is arranged from the heavenly realms

Would all humanity no matter how depraved and evil in life on death go to these higher beautiful heavily planes immediately after their demise? No, absolutely not! Even in heaven there are conditions and accountability.

If this was what happens in heaven one would be constantly bombarded by evil thoughts (as the means of communication was telepathy) and heaven would become a most unheavenly place. So it is logical and obviously that God cannot permit this to happen.

Yes evil monstrous beings such as Hitler and his type are cast into outer darkness, as the darkness of true evil can never ever penetrate the light of God. The book of life, which is contained as memories in the temporal lobe of our brain, are played off, like a video recording on death before God. This is called the life review by near death experiences. Imagine the life review of a person like Hitler?

Are there similar experiences or pleasures exist in the spiritual realm as we do with our mortal bodies while on earth such as, good food, mortal love touch, taste, smell, sight, sex, would this all be lost when we took on ethereal or spiritual bodies? What about our friends, family, lovers, soul mates, travel, homes etc, etc, etc what about boundaries of conduct was anything forbidden if sin was abolished??

The reply came in a revelation that because there would no longer be evil or sin in the heavenly realms, as we progress, learn and become wiser, we are given increasing free will until at the highest vibratory level of purest perfection we are given absolute free will and everything becomes permissible. The pleasures of

Carnality does not exist but a similar soul pleasures ruled by altruist love is wonderfully experienced. Then we will be able to experience anything we desire such as controlled ecstasy, bliss and sublime joy, by mingling in love, merging completely into a cosmic mind to enjoy and relish eternal life with God and all other beings of composite white light.

Everything there is much more intense, sustained and beautiful complete and wonderful than anything we could remotely liken to on the earthly plane. It is indeed very exiting! Totally beyond what I had imagined. Grass, trees, flowers, plants are not subject to death and everything is made out of this translucent light. All living things are not biological but made out of inexhaustible indestructible energy.

Here time as we know it did not exist, one could rest in a moment or for a thousand years, or coexist in multiple moments at the same time, past, present and future , all existing somehow like a great multi-dimensional movie, all the frames unraveled into which one could jump from frame to frame, in and out of at will. Distance is meaningless as billions of higher or lower realms or planes were only separated by thin veil vortex or port into another reality. Each new dimension was another new universe.

As wave after wave of revelation swept through my whole being the wonder and joy of it all was almost too much for me stand or comprehend. I knew the will of God for existing was to ever progress upwards through many dimensions (heavens) towards the light of the ultimate absolute reality (which is God) while always retaining our blessed uniqueness. We would then still be ourselves but also have access to the infinite knowledge power and presence of the creator God as we finally withdraw once again into ourselves. It is a matter of progression or regression and this depends on each soul.

I heard the soft voice (God) speaking directly into my mind some of the deepest mysteries of existence and creation. Much to my disappointment I could only recall a little, but what I recall I have included in this document. As the years have past I have slowly remembered more and more, but of course there are simply revelations so profound that my human brain could never contain them.

Once a person has passed from life on this side into the afterlife it becomes impossible to worry about what is happening on earth any longer. If we continued to worry it would not be heaven would it?

There are angels great and less great, they are beings of light that inhabit all of Gods creation. Just like earthly people they have different characters and each is assigned a task. Sometimes they come to gather in a huge crown of glowing billions, singing the praises of God in a heavily chorus of unimaginable beauty. Their songs of joy and peace reverberate out into the universe giving life and love where it is needed.

Each person of good character has their own guardian angel, which most of us are not aware of. They are the messengers to humanity bringing word of encouragement as well as warning when necessary.

If you want to know the name of your angel clear your mind, and then ask your angel, what is your name? The very first name that popped into your mind is the name of your angel. Think about events in your life when you were helped by some stranger, who appeared as a normal person, this could have being your angel helping you. Intuitions to go somewhere or not go somewhere, unease about something are often strong prompting from your angels.

There might at times be as many angels walking on earth as there are people. Angels can take on any form, if your idea of an angel is of a huge majestic being with great wings, your angel might manifest himself/herself to you like that. Angels do not really have gender like humans.

Some of the future events coming to planet earth were revealed and shown to me. Humanity would have to migrate from planet earth into the universe, as the earth's resources were finite. No nuclear holocaust would obliterate earth and the greatest threat was the population explosion. In addition, the future was not set in stone and the divisions taken by a person or a nation could alter the outcome of the future.

The highest attribute any person can have is wisdom and the wisdom to do things wisely. Graceful love must abound the joyful realities of multiple heavenly glories.

{There gifted people who are referred to as clairvoyants or psychics, but the title for these people is not really important. Unfortunately there are countless fakes making money from people seeking answers for their bereavement}

There is a time coming when God will have to intervene in the affairs of humanity, and the great monotheistic religions belief about this apocalyptic event borders on the truth of what is going to happen. Deep down we all know humanity cannot continue much longer on the path of destruction it now follows

The future only needs one good person to make a colossal difference towards the ultimate good of humanity. The reverse is unfortunately also the case and this might be the explanation for the enigma for the existence of evil. Although our heritage is very important to us all it is much more important to leave a positive legacy.

The loss of moral absolutes was sadness to the divine and the restoration of these was of paramount important if humankind was to escape extinction. All persons should know they will ultimately have to account to the divine for what they have done while on their journey of life, as mere mortal beings while on planet earth. In the end, however, good will prevail in the universe and evil banished into outer darkness forever.

The mystery of evil was an inscrutable mystery beyond the understanding of any person. All things process or regress, in cycles of spiritual learning and metamorphosis towards the light. It was brought to my attention, however, that existence is a duality of death and life, night and day, positive and negative, good and evil and for a good reason without cold we could not enjoy warmth, without hate we would not know love, without death we would not appreciate life etc.

The universe is not infinite or eternal; it is a creation of God the work of the sublime intellect beyond human comprehension. It had a beginning and it will have and end

Our physical earthly realm is a bleak shadow when compared even to the least beautiful heavens.

But our physical earthly reality is unimaginably beautiful when compared to some cold dark planes These entities residing in these lower realms have their free will restricted to a greater and greater degree as one descend into the abysmal dark of the lowest realm , which we call hell.

At these lower dimensions time moves slower and increasingly slower the lower the realm, indeed time is the enemy there and each moment is stretched out. At the lowest in the abysmal thick cold I could feel an entity of horrifying evil, this being seemed to consist of black tar. Whatever it was it was not of human origin.

The words of my childhood "Look upon a falling star and make a wish came into my mind, and in the ethereal realms this is factual, but there is no need to wait for a star to fall, wish what you want or think carefully and you create it with your mind. Want to go somewhere or see someone, wish for it and you are there with them.

Everything lives at a much greater level I saw my beloved dog Bully and wept when I held him, smelled his doggy smell and felt his love for me as I filled him with my love, at last I knew what his little beautiful soul and mind was saying and we communed in joyful wonder. I did not see any of my relatives on the other side; I think it was because I did not want to see them as I still had a lot of unfinished work to do as a mortal earthly being (I would have been tempted to stay).

Each person will be "accountable" for what was done by them done while on earth. We all unlike Hitler have some light and goodness within us and this will enable us to perpetrate the light of God. One candle dispels the darkness. Anyone reading this testimony will definitely not be going into outer darkness but will inherit the
kingdom of God. The spirits of all animals all return to God from whence they have originated, God loves them dearly.

"The abuse of children will face the full wrath of God and it would be better for this type of person to have never been born".

During my earthly life I have plunged the depths of darkness', despair desolation and for anyone to tell me there is a hell worse than this was a great offence to me. But now I knew the consequences and the accountability of life and there were hells so terrible that the Christian hell was a kiddies teddies bears picnic by comparison.

I saw beings so black, so dark, so cold so evil, so depraved and hideous dwelling in these horrifying places. Most were not of human origin, but monstrous beasts of unspeakable evil from elsewhere in the universe and their names were the "Dark Ones" They consisted of Black Light and are the enemies of God and they strive to smother the warm light of God, with their black light of cold. They drain off life into themselves and can only continue to exist by doing this.

I saw the horror that shocked me to the core on a planet, in a village much like a village on earth, the village was lit up and a little girl looked at me with sad eyes and I saw life drain out of her and her eyes slowly dimming until the death of cold overtook her. This is the battle for our universe our universe of Light and Dark. Look out at the night sky, what do you see? A sky mostly dark with some light in this potentially infinite dark?

The universe is populated with the children of light the children of God and the dark ones the rebellious.

Is there a hell yes hell is separation from God there are hells so horrifying that the Christian concept of hell is a holiday picnic by comparison, would the occupants remain there forever, I do not know, maybe God would be kind enough to annihilate the souls of the unredeemable reprobate depraved

During one of my visions of the night I was transported to a colossal cavern somewhere deep in the earth and saw countless souls just waiting in a place that seemed to me to be lit by a dim red light. Was this, limbo or something else? I do not know. Perhaps this is the place the evil dead go to wait for the final Day of Judgment by God?

While one is in the void of grey they can still seek the light and escape, but if they have become so depraved in life like Hitler had I think they descend in black darkness and must remain in this terrible place of fear, desolation and horror, of their own making forever. Therefore, they are not really judged by God but convict "themselves" by refusing to adhere to the moral absolutes of God. God puts no one in hell they put themselves there by refusing to listen to his holy voice while in life.

It is awesome to think that the dimension discussed in this testimony is only the first of many that the spirit has to travel before finally merging and submerging with the infinite almighty. We would then have the unbelievable of direct access to the infinite mind of God (Jacobs Ladder).

Indeed the creation of our glorious universe was an intelligent act of omnificent unimaginable indescribable beauty.

In the soft quite of night I contemplated on all I has seen, all I had heard, all the knowledge I had received, the beauty love and light, the dark, ugly and hate. I tried to express to find one word that could express the greatness of existence the greatness of creation and finally the wonder that is Almighty God

One word slowly filled my mind simply put but deeply pondered I could only express that inconceivable existence is beyond

"ENORMITY
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unitedminds
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 09:47 pm
@xris,
good question, but its a big jump and before the question will even get close to the right answer, consider what is life itself and the purpose of it. I will try to give a clue. the life we live in now, after death it may not be called life anymore but be in a different state or condition. think the water, steam, and the ice. they are the same thing in a different conditions.. try to start from the simplest and go further in complexity, and connect all the thoughts in process, and I a sure you will find your answer a lot faster =)
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unitedminds
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2010 09:56 pm
good question, but its a big jump and before the question will even get close to the right answer, consider what is life itself and the purpose of it. I will try to give a clue. the life we live in now, after death it may not be called life anymore but be in a different state or condition. think the water, steam, and the ice. they are the same thing in a different conditions.. try to start from the simplest and go further in complexity, and connect all the thoughts in process, and I a sure you will find your answer a lot faster =)
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jul, 2010 10:14 pm
What was the purpose for my existence before my birth, I don't remember.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jul, 2010 11:55 pm
@aussie mark,
"What is the purpose of life after death ?"

Y do u assume that there is a purpose ?
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Miller
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2010 12:54 am
@aussie mark,
aussie mark wrote:

:confused: Can any one explain to the forum why there is supposed to be a life after death and what would the purpose of that life be ,

Thank you Very Happy


Dear Aussie:

Could you please tell me why there is supposed to be a life " before death"?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2010 01:06 am
@Miller,
Miller wrote:
aussie mark wrote:

:confused: Can any one explain to the forum why there is supposed to be a life after death and what would the purpose of that life be ,

Thank you Very Happy


Dear Aussie:

Could you please tell me why there is supposed to be a life " before death"?
WELL SAID!
stevecook172001
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2010 01:09 am
The purpose of "life after death" is to give meaning to the lives of those people who are unable to create meaning for themselves
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GoshisDead
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2010 01:18 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Miller wrote:
aussie mark wrote:

:confused: Can any one explain to the forum why there is supposed to be a life after death and what would the purpose of that life be ,

Thank you Very Happy


Dear Aussie:

Could you please tell me why there is supposed to be a life " before death"?
WELL SAID!

LOUD NOISES!
michs
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2010 03:49 pm
@free thinker,
isnt this heaven? which humans can never get an understanding of until one dies.
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michs
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2010 03:56 pm
@free thinker,
we can not qeuestion wat we can not aprehend. life without faith would not exist. we could put all the scholars, pylosophers, scientists, nasa, oxford, cambridge, all acedemia and times that by a billion and our minds cannot come up with the answers. we can only guess.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2010 04:48 pm
@michs,
Could you help me to comprehend why I think that I exist, as I have no faith but I do have thoughts?
north
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2010 08:25 pm
@PoPpAScience,
PoPpAScience wrote:

aussie mark: There is life after death for the same reason there is life before life. "Evolution of spirit".


the Human Spirit




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michs
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2010 01:56 am
@reasoning logic,
you do exist. in one form or another. thoughts, mind, soul, heart, spirit are ll extensions of onesself. as for body could it be just a carcas. when we die there is non of the above left in our body?
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michs
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2010 02:12 am
@GoshisDead,
we can only assume that there could be a purpose of life after death. as know one has come back to say. consider this " all mind, spirit, soul, phlosophy, ethics, science, meaning, purpose, etc. is all complete when we pass over and we are all knowing all wise. WE ARE COMPLETE. we dont need thought mind, we are just pure. we will never find the answers here. we can only guess.

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JLNobody
 
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Reply Wed 6 Oct, 2010 10:20 am
@solowar,
Solowar, I think that death or "afterlife" is no different than 'before -conception/birth". At least that is consistent with my "experience."
And I cannot imagine a "state of death", as if it were a condition of my (dead) self after I die. It seems to me that if there is no longer a self, there is nothing that might be in a condition of oblivion (death)--no subject, no predicate.
Moreover, I think there is NEVER a substantial self. That is just a perspective we are socialized to hold, one that has survival value, a useful fiction.
 

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