I can't understand and at the same time I can understand why Sglass would be so, what's the word, angry, vehement, ... I'm not quite sure.
I can explain JTT.
It's really very simple, if you compare the relationships that are developed in AA, or any type of group, with the dynamics that go on in a dysfunctional family. I'll preface this with saying all families are dysfunctional to some degree or another. There's no such thing as a perfect relationship.
Let's say you have a large family, and some, but not all of the members are being abused in some way. Some of the abusers are in implied positions of power, i.e. the big sister, or cousin that stays with the immediate family, either permanently, or just on summer vacations. Some of these abusers are not abused themselves, some are abused as well. Some neither are abused, or abuse anyone, but see the abuse going on.
If everyone accepts this as the way the family should function, it looks on the surface like smooth sailing. This appearance must be sustained at all costs, to ensure the survival of the unit.
If one person within the family states to the others either, "I'm being abused" or "I see others being abused" They of course become the problem. If they choose to remain with the family, but continue to make their voice heard, they will continue to be seen as the problem.
If they leave the family, and tell others what has been going on, of course it will be denied by the family. The very thing the family most fears will be projected on the member who left, or anyone else, who although not part of the family, can see what's going on.
Hence, drewdad makes a comment against AA, he is accussed of drinking.
Someone who has seen and experienced what goes on is simply told they obviously didn't get anything out of the experience.
I don't know if you're familiar with AA JTT, but what sglass said to you "the first drink gets you drunk" is just one of the many, many, many cliches and catch phrases that are repeated ad nauseum. Sometimes they can be helpful. Just like when I can't remember which way to turn a handle or open a jar, I'll say "lefty loosey, righty tighty" to myslef.
However, saying that to myself, or having someone else say it to me, when the problem is not a pickle jar, but instead trying to work on what's wrong with your internet server, lefty loosey, righty tighty doesn't really help.....but.....you're supposed to pretend it does.