I guess, I'm just following along as an observer here. I have a very limited amount of experience with drugs, and I've never been a huge drinker (save some rather asymptotic evenings). I've never struggled with any substance addiction so for me, reading this thread thus far is watching two camps that both have relevant experience describe their successes and failures.
I can understand strong emotions on a topic like this. If I had overcome a major addiction of any sort I'd have strong feelings related to that journey and the methods that worked (or didn't work).
To the anti-AA'ers, I'd be curious to know what parts of AA are good and could be applied to individuals lives to help them on their own or in other programs. Certainly, there must be something salvageable/recyclable from AA.
To the pro-AA'ers, I'd be curious as to what alternative plan you'd suggest for a person who was not being successful or did not feel comfortable in AA. Certainly, there must exist a respectable system outside of AA.
Also, can someone explain why a person is still an addict after they've quit? This has always been puzzling for me.