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Thu 25 Mar, 2010 10:44 am
maybe if they just scrapped it all and took a fresh start, the church would stand a chance
Well, if they scraped it all there wouldn't be a church now, would there?
That IMO would be just as well.
@mags314772,
and if he resigns, it sets a really bad example.
what being appointed by god and all...
(anyways, i got no dog in this hunt, so ima just watch them eat fish and kneel a lot like always)
not only should he resign, I would hope that there could be some way that he could be legally held responsible along with the abusers.
@chai2,
I would not mourn for thr loss of the church, either. It pretty much ruined my childhood. I think he should resign
Like Rockhead, I have no dog in this fight. Whether the Bishop of Rome resigns or decides to have an omelet for lunch is of no interest to me whatsoever.
I don't think that any opinion from a non member of the church should count. It is presumptuous of non members to speak on this subject.
@hawkeye10,
Are you no longer a champion of free speech? That church has now lasted for a couple of millennia - not many institutions you can say that about - and survived crises bigger than this one. I don't see why the Pope should resign unless he himself was involved in criminal acts - there's no suggestion of that.
why, hawkeye? they intervene in the political process to agitate for laws that affect noncatholics. why can they meddle in my affairs but i can't meddle in theirs? and if the man is an enabler of priests who broke the laws of many countries, why the hell do we not have the right to pillory him. probably the us, germany, and ireland for starters should bring an indictment against him for, at the very least, aiding and abetting.
@High Seas,
Quote:Are you no longer a champion of free speech?
I have no more right to speak on who the Pope should be than I do who the German Prime Minister should be. I say that as a guys whos wife and kids are Catholic, who sometimes attends mass.
boy, they sure do have you brainwashed, hawkeye. the church can do no wrong, eh?
@MontereyJack,
I have a lot of opinions on the Church but I usually keep them to myself. You will notice that I have not become Catholic.
@MontereyJack,
I think the idea is that popes are fallible, being human: the Vatican did say some years ago that whoever was pope at the time was wrong about Galileo.
@hawkeye10,
I am not a current member, but I was for the first 21 years of my life, and have been trying to recover ever since.. I think I have a right to an opinion on this
@mags314772,
Quote:I am not a current member, but I was for the first 21 years of my life, and have been trying to recover ever since.. I think I have a right to an opinion on this
The way I understand it you are still a member, but are lapsed.
@hawkeye10,
Lapsed! That's putting it mildly. I am a heretic for sure....a Unitarian
@mags314772,
either way, I think that we agree that you have as much right to speak on this as a person who has sat in Mass and taken Communion every week for the last year.....
@hawkeye10,
It follows that no man, in or out of Congress should express an opinion on abortion. I know, you're just begging for a chance to expound on paternal rights, but it just isn't our business, according to your logic.
@hawkeye10,
We live to see strange things happen in life.
A braggart like HE denying non catholic people the right to talk about the pope.
Oh, the irony!!
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