Atheism

There are so many threads on this site about religion and atheism, so much back and forth, (hot air).
Makes me wonder through all this discourse, (hot air) if somebody actually changed their point of view.
Have any atheists been converted or have any god fearing folk lost their belief?.

I doubt it very much.

So what's the point, probably better off discussing something you could all agree on, is there such a something?.
Global warming maybe, oh no scratch that, maybe gun control, hmm maybe not, gay rights oops, don't go there....

Water is wet, you cant argue with that, can you????? .... probably.

Wrong! Only in a very narrow range of temperature and pressure. In the vast majority of the universe it is not wet.

Get the idea now euro?

There you go.

Everything has to be confrontational, a snipe here and a sneer there.

Welcome to Interzone euro.

Interzone's a lot more fun, plenty of dope and dodgy croakers like Benway.

Agreement! Great movie.

And more humans post in this thread than Americans.

Humans, Americanos what does it matter. They're all nuts these days.

three of us (that I know of) have spoken to loss of belief as a result of discussions here and at Abuzz (one of the A2k predecessor sites)

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On my part, it came from realizing that belief was completely indefensible and that knowledge was impossible.

Aye, it's a no brainer.

How people surrender their free will to organised religion is beyond me.
Early conditioning is how they get them.

That said, I cant dismiss the idea of a greater being, but anybody or any religious ethos that claims to understand or represent that greater being are either misguided, deluded or charlatans.

God love them.

I lost my belief during my young teens when I read the story of the world flood. We are all "sinners."
Thou shalt not kill, but kill when your siblings do not believe in me!

In my case, I wavered from being a highly involved catholic (up until I was eighteen or so, to an 'I think I believe person', the think I believe getting weaker, in my beginning twenties. Then came the atheist boyfriend I was crazy about (that didn't work out, as I might revert back to catholicism, and I see his and his families' point of view though at the time it about killed me.) I still didn't completely ditch the whole religion thing until I read an article in the National Catholic Reporter (or a similar name) regarding an argument over of all things, IUDs, by Hans Kung and the guy who became Pope Benedict, Joseph Ratzinger. That did it. I folded the newspaper and was completely done, saying to myself, I don't buy any of this rigamarole. It was the straw that broke the camel. That was probably in '66. A different road taken.

I've said all this before here, but am speaking up again now because it is pleasant, in a thread created to have a place for atheists to talk, the non believers get to be beset by what Set calls godbotherers. I get that in a usual religion thread, but not one specifically started as a community of similar thinkers. F'king rude.
I never invade religious threads.

Them feckin atheist boyfriends, always causing trouble.

Sure who needs religion when we've got music and moonlight and love and romance lets face death and dance.

No hurry on the latter.

The ship had been slowly sailing away before the boyfriend, but he made a lot of sense, a captivating thing in a friend or boyfriend. Knowing him was like freeing shackles.

Something you might understand - when I introduced him to my mother, who was Boston Irish, and said his name, last name Cohen, she picked up on him as irish (which Cohan can be) and smiling.. and then his explaining no.

I remember mentally cringing that she said that..
I should explain: my father and mother were early workers in Hollywood, and during a lot of their years, the people involved were often either jewish or irish, and from my childhood and teen observations, got along, from what I saw. I don't take her, in memory, as biased, but she especially liked the irish.

Heh, I never mentioned his atheism, nor my then almost-agreement.

She had good taste your Mother. The boyfriends first name wasn't Leonard was it Oso?

I'm trying not to hurry.

Me too Oso, me too.

No, it wasn't.

But I'm thinking of Leonard for the Next Nobel. Well, that's silly, he is already dear to many of us. I killed two of his first album, on blue disks - I played them so many times.

I'll add that she had at least one bias: not fond of Protestants.

I haven't run across anyone that disliked Protestants in a lot of years, but that may be related to where I have lived. I should add, my mother was born in 1901.

The animosity is still very strong in Northern Ireland despite the peace talks.

This is a wall between the two communities.



In contrast here is the border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.