Atheism

I don't recall being asked to give any.

Snotty and sneaky? Don't see how. To be more blunt I was wondering if repressed homosexuality (youthful curiousity?) explains such devout religion in someone such as yourself. Being who you are, you'd be seeing that as an appalling accusation. I don't think it's in any way an insult. If anything it explains the contrast between your apparent intellect and your faith.

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The charge of repressed homosexuality, originally popularised by Freud, is unanswerable. Hence its popularity with sneaky, snotty slimeballs.

I have no idea how your obviously fevered mind has conjured itself into thinking I am devoutly religious. If you will point me to any evidence I have given of being in that state in all the six years I have been on A2K I would be obliged. The only faith I have is that mass atheism of an extent that penetrates into the insitutional elites will ruin everything.

And I have told you that 100% heterosexuality can be scientifically detected by any man who cares to put himself to the test.

I don't see what you say as being an "appalling accusation". I don't give a flying **** about it. It is entirely your affair.

I don't even like women in trousers. They look ridiculous to me.

Gotcha>O<I like burka's too

The tactless usually live under the illusion that they are just agents of the truth, and that others just don't get "how it is."


I assume your experience in marriage what guides you to such a conclusion.


With you, it would be simpler to find the exceptions when you are being nice to others. 99% of the time, you're just an asshole looking to get a rise out of others by trolling.


I don't think Pepijin is a native to the English tongue, and perhaps he might not be able to detect the bile in your words.


All people should have respect for each other spendi. Further, I'd say many women probably feel that they've been better respected by homosexual men than many heterosexual men. I'd wager that we could find plenty of women who would prefer the company of a gay man over your social attendance any day. Even a Tuesday.

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Not if she is heterosexual and has made the decision to marry a man thinking he is also heterosexual and finds out later that he isn't.

I find this whole conversation about covering up who you are or have been to the person you are marrying, deplorable and disgusting.

You say to the girl, 'I'm bi, or I've had homosexual liaisons with people in the past, but I'm more interested in women and you specifically now,' and give her the option of making an informed decision for her future.

Why would you start a life-long relationship that's supposed to be based on mutual trust with any skeletons in your closet?
Besides the fact that it shows very little faith in this person you are supposed to love.

And spendius - are you or are you not a Christian? I have to say that I was under the impression that you were a person of faith (I thought Catholic). Are you now saying that you're just anti-institutionalized Atheism instead of pro-Christianity?
If so, that's sort of the same thing you accuse the people on the Evolution thread of being/doing- being anti-Christianity without being able to recount the pros of institutionalized Atheism.

And finally - best of luck to you and your broom Pepijn Sweep. I don't think you should be afraid to tell him about your loose and drunken sojourns into heterosexual sex. If he loves you - he'll understand.

I don't give a crap who is or is not a homosexual. I'm sure there are some on both sides of the atheist question and find it quite irrelevant to the intent of this thread.

"Whenas in silks my Julia goes,
Then, then (me thinks) how sweetly flowes
The liquefaction of her clothes.

Next, when I cast mine eyes and see
That brave Vibration each way free ;
Oh how that glittering taketh me. "

Robert Herrick (1591--1674) And 83 was a good age in those days.

A man's taste in literature is a sound guide.

But Sweepie--I misunderstood as you have guessed. Possibly I might have took more notice than I did of "betrothed". But you did use the word "marry". I only consider that word to mean one thing, as do most people. Hence with you being male I assumed the Spanish Catholic to be a lady.

But the Tour de France has started on Eurosport. Do homosexual men not object to all the presentations every day being "bookended" by two pretty doxies in skirts? Methinks there might be riots if they tried a couple of limp-wristed fruitcakes in tight trousers.

Some of us ed don't give a crap about what you don't give a crap about. And I hope the feeling is mutual.

I'll get back to you Rebecca when I can.

A fine women in silk, what a thought. How silk exaggerates the movement and those lovely lines. Sorry Peps but im so glad I love women instead of those harsh and awkward shapes of man.

I don't need to recount the pros of Christianity. You can see them with your eyes. They are the status quo. The onus is on the atheists, as it is on all revolutionaries, to sell their way of life without recourse to violence. And not just to sell it to themselves which is so easy to do as it usually derives from the joys of sexual indiscpline. They have to sell it to us all, or a majority at least. The big laugh is that the discipline the atheists will necessarily bring in will be far more strict that anything the "Great Whore" of Rome requires because it will be the discipline of scientific method.

Notre Dame means "Our Lady". What is a non-euphemistic atheistic description of the human female organism from the point of view of a scientific elite? I could offer you one but I won't. And a scientific elite in an atheist society will control education and media.

I'll shorten up Ted Hughes' effort in the interest of delicacy--- "a sort of uterus on the loose---upholstered with breasts---a mobile tub made up of sexual parts---a multiple udder on trotters---swamping the senses."

With an atheist scientific elite delete the "on the loose". There will be conception clinics as there are with racehorses. Bernard Shaw has the reputation of following Darwin's logic to the stud farm. My opponents haven't the nerve. They are barbecue atheists or big girl's blouses.

Stalin had Mother of the Soviet Union medals for women with six kids or more.

I understand what you're saying, but I don't understand how you expect to maintain the status quo if the most vocal defenders of the outward trappings of the status quo can't even admit that they actually believe in or adhere to the underlying tenets that have shaped or produced the status quo.

It's like you're saying we're supposed to arrive at and maintain an outward manifestation of a belief without necessarily needing to have that belief...

I don't get it- how is that supposed to happen?

I had a medal too. Bad russian make, fell apart last year.

Humility first Rebecca. Don't we make an effort to pretend that chomping our way through the nutrient bed is dignified? Isn't what Ted Hughes made of it also the beautiful bride. What is fashion and make-up but an illusion. What does Majoring in philosophy actually mean. Is not suburbia a collection of breeding hutches huddled together for efficiency? What is a childhood without the Arabian Nights?

You don't seriously think that the Pope and the College of Cardinals believe that Jesus floated up into heaven do you?

Life without illusions is a tawdry thing indeed.

No - and neither do I-but I do believe in the efficacy of the symbolism of selfless love and sacrifice as a guiding principle of Christianity and that it can facilitate less self-absorbed and selfish behavior among people in societies.

I mean, you have to at least believe in the principles if you want to cling to the trappings, don't you?

I'll just tag that little snippet as "further evidence for the prosecution"

Perhaps he attained the Rainbow Body.

Epicurus
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

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Don't pray in my school, and I won't think in your church

Gene Roddenberry
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes


Richard Lederer (Anguished English)
There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages.

Steven Weinberg
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

George Carlin
Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! ..But He loves you.

Albert Einstein
A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death

Napoleon Bonaparte
Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet

Friedrich Nietzsche
Which is it, is man one of God's blunders or is God one of man's?

How many preaching atheists do you know who have not been involved in artificial birth control, which is demeaning to women and assumes sex is male orgasm, divorce, which humiliates women, pre-marital sex without responsibility, which also humiliates women, abortion, which traduces female nature the shame of which is proved by how many abortions there have been and how few women we know who have had one, and male homosexuality, which eschews women.

I will maintain that the preaching atheist is on a self-justifying ego trip and nothing else. The atheist who keeps his or her own counsel is another matter.

Why is the preaching atheist so emotionally involved otherwise? An atheist who keeps his or her own counsel has no reason to smarten up the chumps surely. It would actually be disadvantageous. As W.C. Fields famously taught. And as evolution teaches.