Atheism

Our LORD, Jesus Christ, our God, the Holy Spirit lives, resides in heaven. In our minds, our thoughts, our beliefs, his spirit lives eternally. Whether one wants to believe or not.

I believe in God, and Jesus Christ. And life eternal. I believe there are angels. I believe there are good people and good spirits. I believe in living a life acceptable to the LORD Jesus Christ. I love the LORD Jesus Christ. I love his love. The LORD Jesus Christ is love.

The LORD'S image becomes more clear, visible the more you seek him. His love. His guidance. He is beautiful. A beautiful feeling. He is love.

You won't get **** out of frank, wilso.

Seems to me that there's a good chance that not being able to be comfortable with saying you don't know something may have led to religious thinking in the first place. Just a thought.

FBM wrote:

Seems to me that there's a good chance that not being able to be comfortable with saying you don't know something may have led to religious thinking in the first place. Just a thought.

I suspect that may very well be the case. Many theists seem as fearful of saying "I do not know" as they are of saying, "There are no gods."

But as I see it..."there is a GOD" and "there are no gods" both are nothing more than blind guesses.

Frank Apisa wrote:

FBM wrote:

Seems to me that there's a good chance that not being able to be comfortable with saying you don't know something may have led to religious thinking in the first place. Just a thought.

I suspect that may very well be the case. Many theists seem as fearful of saying "I do not know" as they are of saying, "There are no gods."

But as I see it..."there is a GOD" and "there are no gods" both are nothing more than blind guesses.

My personal belief is that " I don't know" is very intellectually honest. But assertions for and against the existence of gods are not equally valid. The fact is Frank, that until someone's presents me with a study showing say, that prayer is as effective as antibiotics in treating illness, then religion remains a pathetic crock of ****.

I suspect that may very well be the case. Many theists seem as fearful of saying "I do not know" as they are of saying, "There are no gods."

But as I see it..."there is a GOD" and "there are no gods" both are nothing more than blind guesses.

Frank Apisa wrote:

I suspect that may very well be the case. Many theists seem as fearful of saying "I do not know" as they are of saying, "There are no gods."

But as I see it..."there is a GOD" and "there are no gods" both are nothing more than blind guesses.

I'm not sure they're equally blind, though. As one accumulates empirical evidence, one becomes less blind, I think. Despite the Problem of Induction, empirical evidence "weighs" more than an ancient tradition or myth. As we piece together bits of understanding of how things work, and when nothing found yet requires or suggests the existence of a divine creator, I think it's safe to say that the probability of there being such a thing diminishes. I wouldn't say it ever becomes zero, but I visualize it as an asymptote.

I wouldn't say it ever becomes zero, but I visualize it as an asymptote.

I have no idea of what the true nature of the REALITY of existence is...so I am not ruling anything out.

I have not seen anything that suggests something can come from nothing...but I am not ruling that out either. How are you treating that notion, FBM?

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I wouldn't say it ever becomes zero, but I visualize it as an asymptote.

That's a very good point. It is possible to make a joke of one's own skepticism and intellectual honesty by insistence on a negligible possibility. To steal from the Ivory soap advertising gimmick, i'm 99.44% sure there are no gods. Something i find hilarious is that so many self-righteous agnostics dismiss questions about fairies, pixies, elves and other allegations of the existence of supernatural beings, with a contempt for the question which they don't display when the question is whether or not there is a magic sky daddy.