Atheism

Frank Apisa said: I'd prefer to get my history from historians rather than from the Old Testament, Romeo.
You'd do better to do the same.

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Frank Apisa said: I'd prefer to get my history from historians rather than from the Old Testament, Romeo.
You'd do better to do the same.

But the Bible IS a history book!

It gives us the facts warts and all and doesn't try to edit out any jarring bits, which is why it has the ring of truth.

For example technically Moses was a murderer (the Egyptian slave driver remember) but nobody ever tried to edit it out..

Frank Apisa said: Moses may never even have existed...

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Frank Apisa said: Moses may never even have existed...

The same could be said of any historical figures through the centuries, eg Buddha, Socrates, Jesus, Julius Caesar, Mohammed etc , so if you can present any good argument as to why we should think they never existed, we'd be glad to entertain it..

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And there is no paucity of evidence for injurious behavior motivated by religions.

That is an ad hom as well. It does not address alternatives and it does not define "others". Nor does it say what injurious means. And it implies that only you are against injurious behaviour and only you can define it.

Where is the example I asked for of me using an ad hom about you?
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It is very odd that those who use ad homs the most are so ready to accuse those who don't of the glaring fault. Doing that is an ad hom.
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Frank Apisa said: Google "Exodus" "ancient Israelites expelled from Egypt"...and you will get hundreds of thousands of thoughts to peruse.

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Frank Apisa said: Google "Exodus" "ancient Israelites expelled from Egypt"...and you will get hundreds of thousands of thoughts to peruse.

Of course they were expelled by Pharoah! God was slapping the Egyptians around with plague after plague to make him free the Israelites..-

PHAROAH TO HIS COURTIERS - "Sheesh that Christian God really had it in for me, I only hope he's finished!
Now let's put it all behind us and move on with our lives and have a feast of celebration, sit down everybody and tuck in!"

(cue sound of millions of locust wings as they fly through the windows and settle on all the plates of food)
PHAROAH - "Oh sh*t"...

so no wonder Pharoah eventually cracked said "Okay okay, enough!, Let's get the Israelis out of here!"

You so, so very, very obviously don't know what an argumentum ad hominem is, so I don't see much point in trying to convince you that you've made one. You seem bent on arguing at the expense of intellectual honesty. I guess I misjudged you, after all. I don't post here regularly, and somehow I had the impression that you could argue dispassionately and that empirical evidence and necessary inference based on it would carry weight. However, you riddle your posts with logical fallacies, empty, emotion-laden rhetoric. That's so common to find on the internet these days that you simply aren't an interesting interlocutor. I wouldn't be surprised if you were a sock puppet of Romeo. Anyhoo, goodbye and good luck. I hope you educate yourself soon.

You so, so very, very obviously don't know what an argumentum ad hominem is, so I don't see much point in trying to convince you that you've made one. You seem bent on arguing at the expense of intellectual honesty. I guess I misjudged you, after all. I don't post here regularly, and somehow I had the impression that you could argue dispassionately and that empirical evidence and necessary inference based on it would carry weight. However, you riddle your posts with logical fallacies, empty, emotion-laden rhetoric. That's so common to find on the internet these days that you simply aren't an interesting interlocutor. I wouldn't be surprised if you were a sock puppet of Romeo. Anyhoo, goodbye and good luck. I hope you educate yourself soon.

Spendius said: ex Absurdo, ex Fortiori, Ars Logica, Argumentum Fistulatorium, Argumentum Baculinum, Argumentum ad Crumenam, Argumentum Tripodium, Argumentum ad Rem.

Oh God please make me funny (sniffle)..

Oh God please make me funny (sniffle)..

You should first pray to be correct.

Sorry mate. I detest science fiction. It is such an onholy cop-out that I can't believe that people give it their attention.

Did you know that a nuclear physicist has calculated that the dematerialisation of Jesus at the Ascension would have wiped out all life within a radius of 5000 miles?