Atheism

@Olivier5,

Yes, we had plenty of other kids we could play with, and we didn't have to fear "extermination" like in Germany and Poland. We had Japanese and English schools, sports, crafts, and three meals a day - by lining up in long lines at the mess hall (each block had one). We had communal toilets and showers - with no privacy. Some Japanese-Americans were shot by army personnel when they got too close to the fence.

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@cicerone imposter,

We did it ci. with Germans living in England. But you can see the point of it being done surely? The Japanese caused it by attacking Pearl Harbour.

What happened to American residents in Japan? I must confess I have no idea what happened to Brits living in Germany. The ones living on the occupied Channel Islands were not put to the sword so we are improving our moral tone under the grinding lash of the Christian culture.

We interned German residents on the Isle of Man and I think they were treated pretty well.

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@spendius,

On the matter of punishment in this world it does seem that some recent legal decisions have deemed it an offence for a man to take advantage of a superior position to assuage his carnal lust at the expense of some sweet and innocent young lady who has asked to be disguised for the interview and that an actress speaks her lines.

A thing unheard of I think when any punishment for such disgraceful behaviour was deferred to the next world. Not yet as set in stone as Santa is but Santa must have had an infancy.

The problem here is that some posters seem to have no sense of the dynamic aspects of a culture. The Christian culture is always on the move. The direction at any one time is a matter of contentious debate. Anybody stuck in one place is going to be pissed off at either forward or backward directions.

Which can be a schtick.

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@spendius,

Well, as usual comparing oranges and apples only misleads people.

US put Americans of Japanese ancestry in concentration camps, which is quite different from the English keeping Germans in camps.

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@spendius,

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as the influence of religion fades away, some of its functions are being taken up by non-religious cultural items such as Santa.

That's right. And such as punishment in this world replacing punishment in the next world. which Prof. Dawkins says probably won't happen and which, anyway, is a threat barely holding the line if it might be said to be holding the line at all.

If you mean that an atheist society might need a stronger police force than a deeply religious society, yes, perhaps.

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One cannot possibly understand the human female with reference to the Christian human female. Misogyny gets no more fundamental than that.

If we get atheism we get atheist ladies. And they will quickly invent, or revive, a religion. In fact some of the less decorous specimens are already doing so and with Media keeping very quiet about it.

So.. this is all about women? About how to control their relentless sexual drive or something?...

A rule of thumb I go by is that women are just like any other man. And vice-versa. I don't always understand the most feminine among them but that's what's fun too, and it does not preclude their belonging to the human race.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Yes, we had plenty of other kids we could play with, and we didn't have to fear "extermination" like in Germany and Poland. We had Japanese and English schools, sports, crafts, and three meals a day - by lining up in long lines at the mess hall (each block had one). We had communal toilets and showers - with no privacy. Some Japanese-Americans were shot by army personnel when they got too close to the fence.

Have you written about that? If not, you should.

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@Wilso,

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Good proof of a post I saw on my twitter timeline, which made the point that the most difficult person to deal with is the highly confident, uneducated moron.

Not quite so difficult as the highly confident educated moron.

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The definition of moron is a stupid person. You won't be very successful at educating a stupid person. Religionists should know that from personal experience.

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@timur,

I don't know what definitions were in use tim.

But I think the two cases are comparable in a general sense. The motive would be the same. And I have little doubt that injustices took place.

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@Olivier5,

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If you mean that an atheist society might need a stronger police force than a deeply religious society, yes, perhaps.

I think it is a foregone conclusion with no "perhaps" about it.

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I don't always understand the most feminine among them but that's what's fun too, and it does not preclude their belonging to the human race.

I certainly don't think women are not members of the human race. I would be appalled if it got about that I thought they were not.

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About how to control their relentless sexual drive or something?...

It depends on how you define "sexual drive". We have all seen Jane Fonda look at her watch in Klute.

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@Setanta,

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The definition of moron is a stupid person.

Blimey!!! We are in noddy land.

The definition of stupid is a moronic person as well.

Both words, in this ridiculous intellectual ambience, apply to anyone with whom one does not agree. Verbal bludgeons.

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@spendius,

So you're saying I'm a moron.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

The definition of moron is a stupid person. You won't qbe very successful at educating a stupid person. Religionists should know that from personal experience.

Figure IQ 51-70.
There are lower levels, of course.

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IQ is meaningless. I took the number one definition when i did a quick search for "define moron:"

mo·ron
noun informal
1. a stupid person.

Even if one took that silly IQ BS, you wouldn't accomplish much in the way of education--tying one's shoes, that sort of thing.

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@Setanta,

My brain is the size of a peanut.

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@Setanta,

A stupid person is someone who uses a once-round circularity oblivious of it being a once-round circularity.

Such people are mesmerised by circularities which take elliptical routes or double back on themselves.

Inability to tie one's shoes signifies mental disability which cannot be helped and is not to be confused with unconsciously using once-round circularities which can be helped. The former is a medical condition and the latter is a psychological one with symptoms which can only be recognised by those who can think straight.

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@Setanta,

Well. You know me. I try to take the scientific approach.

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@Olivier5,

I don't believe I even understand what you are trying to say any more.

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you were saying that atheists are all the same,

Another strawman: I never said anything like that, I spoke of common ground.

You said we shared philosophies. 'Common ground' is a meaningless term if you don't define it - twins have common ground and humans share 70% of their DNA with corn - that's common ground too.

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Anything other than a lack of belief in gods is a belief and is not atheism.

LOL. And you really believe that, don't you?

What about me, who believe there are no deities? Don't I have a belief here? How would you call that belief, other than atheism? Non-godism?

You are missing my point. Athiesm is a word describing a n0n-belief. A belief is a belief. I don't mean you can't be an atheist have beliefs, I'm saying semantically the word atheism describes a lack of belief of the existence of gods. It has no either meaning - you are redefining it through connotation and personal view. Which you have right to have, but you can't expect that everyone else share it.

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@neologist,

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Well. You know me. I try to take the scientific approach.

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@Olivier5,

There are plenty of history written about the camps.

Here's a good start about that history.
http://www.ushistory.org/us/51e.asp

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