Wilso
 
  1  
Thu 13 Mar, 2014 09:24 pm
Apparently you're the 1 in 10 000 000 right wing christians who just wants to "live and let live". In which case you're either a liar, or a liar. If you believe that anyone's swallowing the **** you're dribbling, then obviously your IQ is even lower than has already been pointed out.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 13 Mar, 2014 09:29 pm
@Wilso,
Quote:
right wing christians


I never said I was Christian. And you or anyone else here has no idea what my IQ is. What else would you like to make up about me?http://www.alien-earth.org/images/smileys/coffeetime.gif
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wmwcjr
 
  1  
Thu 13 Mar, 2014 10:10 pm
@Wilso,
Coldjoint's a conservative, but he's not of the "Religious Right."

I'm just giving a little info here. Now I'll get outta here since I don't want to intrude upon a thread that's meant for others.
Wilso
 
  1  
Thu 13 Mar, 2014 10:24 pm
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:

Coldjoint's a conservative, but he's not of the "Religious Right."

I'm just giving a little info here. Now I'll get outta here since I don't want to intrude upon a thread that's meant for others.


Right wing, and christian, but not "Religious Right". Sounds like very finely split hairs to me.
wmwcjr
 
  1  
Thu 13 Mar, 2014 10:52 pm
@Wilso,
A person can be a political conservative or right winger without any belief in God. The atheist Ayn Rand was a prime example. Coldjoint seems to have no allegiance to any particular religion. He has said he's not a Christian.

The question of whether someone is a Christian or not depends upon one's own definition of "Christian." There are a multiplicity of religious beliefs that many people call "Christianity."

My own point of view? I consider myself to be a Christian who cannot identify with either conservatism or liberalism. I'm adamantly opposed to those who would set up a theocracy in this country. I don't believe in persecuting people. For most of my life I have had plenty of shortcomings of my own to cause me to be empathetic toward others and not look down on them (except for those who victimize others). I feel like an oddball at times because I don't let others do my thinking for me.

I shouldn't say any more than this because, like I said, this thread belongs to others.

Gotta go to bed now.


Edit: Excuse me, Wilso, for changing my mind. I just thought of this. Here's an interesting comment by the late Barry Goldwater -- who, as you probably know, was one of the leading conservative politicians in this country. (I'm not a Goldwater fan. I'm just pointing this out to you.)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7bZK8lbY__k/T2rfLkM11AI/AAAAAAAAFnU/94JRXPBGbKs/s1600/Barry%2BGoldwater%2B-%2BPreachers.jpg
Wilso
 
  1  
Thu 13 Mar, 2014 11:18 pm
@wmwcjr,
I'm Australian. Never heard of most US politicians outside of Prez, VP, SecDef etc.
wmwcjr
 
  1  
Thu 13 Mar, 2014 11:36 pm
@Wilso,
I understand. Smile My own knowledge of other countries' politics is limited. As far as my own country's politics, I gave up on them decades ago. I'm not very optimistic about my country's future.

Now I'm going to bed. It's way past my bedtime! Have a good day! Smile
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spendius
 
  2  
Fri 14 Mar, 2014 04:57 am
@Wilso,
Quote:
I'll tell you what the problem is you ******* ignorant dipshit. If it was just a case of you being a stupid superstitious fuckwit, nobody would care. Go away and be a fuckwit all you want. But that's not good enough. Because you people aren't content to just be fuckwits. You insist on interfering in the lives of ******* EVERYONE. You complain and vote based on which representative will legislate against who can marry who. On who can have sex with who. On what decisions women can make with their own bodies. On what is taught to other people's children. You are an insidious ******* cancer on society, and EVERYTHING that ******* assholes like you touch turn to ****. So suck it up sunshine. I will never stop pointing out what a worthless cocksucking waste of skin and oxygen you and your ilk are.


That's making a travesty of the English language. A sublime instrument reduced to grunting.

Whether it is intended to discredit atheism or not it certainly does do. Speaking as an atheist I am deeply ashamed of such language coming from my side and the attitudes it signifies.

No wonder so few atheists are prepared to step into the public arena when they are risking being associated with that level of intoleration and ignorance.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
  0  
Fri 14 Mar, 2014 07:34 am
Quote:
Panzade posted:

https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1959770_635512149856607_1085317441_n.jpg

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nah Jack, it don't work like that..Smile
Asking forgiveness only carries weight if it's from the heart because simply mouthing the words without remorse won't do.
For examp Hamlet's murderous uncle prayed for forgiveness but gave up because he knew his heart wasn't in it- "My words fly up but my thoughts remain below"

But the guy on the cross next to Jesus hit the jackpot when he was full of remorse and said "Hey man I like you, so please don't forget me, y'hear?", to which Jesus answered "Chill bro, today you'll be in paradise with me" (Luke 23:42)
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Fri 14 Mar, 2014 07:39 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Panzade posted:

https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1959770_635512149856607_1085317441_n.jpg

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nah Jack, it don't work like that..Smile
Asking forgiveness only carries weight if it's from the heart because simply mouthing the words without remorse won't do.
For examp Hamlet's murderous uncle prayed for forgiveness but gave up because he knew his heart wasn't in it- "My words fly up but my thoughts remain below"


But the guy on the cross next to Jesus hit the jackpot when he was full of remorse and said "Hey man I like you, so please don't forget me, y'hear?", to which Jesus answered "Chill bro, today you'll be in paradise with me" (Luke 23:42)



Ahhh...so you are saying the wording on this poster should be:


DON'T PRAY FOR A BIKE, I WON'T GIVE IT TO YOU.

STEAL A BIKE AND PRAY FOR FORGIVENESS...AND REALLY, REALLY MEAN IT...I CAN GIVE YOU THAT!

I understand, Romeo!
Romeo Fabulini
 
  0  
Fri 14 Mar, 2014 07:57 am
@Frank Apisa,
Dream on Charlie! God's got two phones in his study-
A green one which only receives genuine remorseful calls, and he'll answer it every time it rings.
A red one which only receives non-remorseful calls and he just lets it ring without ever answering it..Smile
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neologist
 
  2  
Fri 14 Mar, 2014 09:48 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
. ... .STEAL A BIKE AND PRAY FOR FORGIVENESS...AND REALLY, REALLY MEAN IT...I CAN GIVE YOU THAT!
Probably would help if you gave the bike back.
wmwcjr
 
  1  
Fri 14 Mar, 2014 11:46 am
@neologist,
Yes, indeed! Smile
chai2
 
  1  
Fri 14 Mar, 2014 12:22 pm
@wmwcjr,
But, do you need God to tell you that?
Setanta
 
  2  
Fri 14 Mar, 2014 01:19 pm
I am constantly amazed that theists will, with a straight face, expect people to believe the BS they peddle. OK, maybe when people were stinkly, literally lousy and flea-bitten, living in goat-hide tents in the desert and looking around imagining that they lived on a flat disc around which the sun, moon and stars traveled. But today, as vast as we know the cosmos to be, how can anyone imagine that there is an omnipotent creator who cares about whom i stick my dick in, or how women behave during the menstrual cycle, or what kind of food i eat? You look at the pentateuch, and it's got anal-retentive, slack-jawed hillbilly written all over it. It's just so preposterous, i am often dumbfounded when i consider that anyone buys that BS. That's some serious self-delusion going on, and by people who must be terrified of the implication that they're nobody in the grand scheme of things. (Or, alternatively, terrified that their husband or father will beat the sh*t out of them, yet again.)
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Fri 14 Mar, 2014 02:26 pm
@Setanta,
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wmwcjr
 
  1  
Fri 14 Mar, 2014 02:52 pm
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:
But, do you need God to tell you that?


Not really. You only have to be a decent person.
chai2
 
  2  
Fri 14 Mar, 2014 02:52 pm
@wmwcjr,
ding ding ding!

We have a winner!

(only it should re "not at all" instead of "not really")
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spendius
 
  0  
Fri 14 Mar, 2014 02:53 pm
@Setanta,
What a silly, incoherent and ignorant argument that is.

No wonder atheism is making no headway.

What is needed from atheists are some election promises. One cannot help but feel that the pent up rage at not having any manifesto needs catharsis and theists look an easy route for temporary relief.

Especially because a critical analysis of Setanta's dribblings is impossible to undertake in a discourse such as this due to the complexities involved.

That the audience does not understand the complexities or even knows that they exist is taken for granted. We are being addressed as if we are children.

Which theists? The ones nursing the sick in the Congo?
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Wilso
 
  2  
Sat 15 Mar, 2014 12:29 am
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