Atheism

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Frank Apisa said:...but we are talking about the "Roman army garrison's eyewitness accounts of Jesus."
..your suggestion that we have "eyewitness accounts" from the Roman garrison.
Or are going to withdraw that assertion because it is unsustainable?

I never withdraw anything mate, I'm not a catholic..

And I never said the garrison wrote anything!

Like I said, when Christianity began snowballing in popularity the Romans tried to play down the fact that they'd let the Jewish priests talk them into killing Jesus, so no wonder no soldiers wrote a book about him or they'd have ended their military career slopping out the latrines in the Colosseum.

Incidentally Jesus cured a Roman centurion's servant (Matt 8:5) but not even he dare go round saying Jesus rocks, or he'd have been busted to buck private.

Someone else posted that in the jokes thread. That's a good one.

Romeo said: I never said the garrison wrote anything!
Frank Apisa claimed: Nope...but you did say you were relying on the "eyewitness accounts" of the Roman army garrison..

Panzade posted:

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Romeo said: I never said the garrison wrote anything!
Frank Apisa claimed: Nope...but you did say you were relying on the "eyewitness accounts" of the Roman army garrison..

Mate, in your eager but forlorn hope of trying to score points off me it's obvious you "accidentally" chose to misunderstand me when I said-
"the snooty Jewish priests and the posturing Romans said "Oops better not let on it was us who killed him, quick shred all the documents implicating us or we'll have a Jesusgate scandal on our hands"

You see, I didn't suggest the Romans wrote full-blown gospels, I simply suggested that they and the snooty priests shredded court documents and the like in an attempt to airbrush Jesus out of history and make people think he never existed!
They were only successful in fooling atheists and agnostics who've swallowed it completely..

I myself tried being an atheist in my younger days but it only lasted a very short while because I felt very uncomfortable and stoopid because I just couldn't dismiss the entire nation of Israel's and the Roman army garrison's eyewitness accounts of Jesus..

Frank Apisa swung with: Where are the “Roman army garrison’s eyewitness accounts” that were a part of your giving up atheism???

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Frank Apisa swung with: Where are the “Roman army garrison’s eyewitness accounts” that were a part of your giving up atheism???

THAT'S THE SPIRIT MATE, keep on swinging that club..
Some Roman eyewitness accounts and reports slipped past the shredder and are included in the gospels, for example we even have a trial transcript including Big Boss Pilates own words delivering the "Not guilty" (John 19:6) verdict against Jesus, and his dialogue with the snooty priests who lodged an appeal for the death penalty, and we have the words of the Centurion and his troops at the cross saying "This was the Son of God" (Matt 27:54)

Like I said, to be an atheist i'd have had to dismiss such accounts out of hand but I could find no grounds for doing so, so my "atheist phase" didn't last long at all!

And consider this- it'd have been the EASIEST THING IN THE WORLD for the Roman Empire to simply flatly deny Jesus ever existed, thereby squashing early Christianity like a grape, but they knew it'd never fly because there were just TOO MANY EYEWITNESSES among the garrison, the priests and the ordinary people..

Since he doesn't know what reality is and most, if not all, of his opinions are guesses, you can just ignore him.

Since he doesn't know what reality is and most, if not all, of his opinions are guesses, you can just ignore him.

Jeeze, i wonder if we could actually discuss the experience of being an atheist, which is, after all the topic of the thread.